Rebuilding the Team

[Moodybluebird]

After watching the extended highlights of the Swans game, it struck me what an enormous job MM has on his hands if he wants to improve our style of play next season.

Zero composure, panic passing all over the field and no discernible pattern of play. A bit like watching an Under 11's schoolboy team.

I love the attitude he's instilled into the players and the passion he still has for the game but for the club to progress we absolutely must add a higher degree of skill to our play. All should become clearer when we discover his transfer targets for next season.

[AfricanBluebird]

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After watching the extended highlights of the Swans game, it struck me what an enormous job MM has on his hands if he wants to improve our style of play next season.

Zero composure, panic passing all over the field and no discernible pattern of play. A bit like watching an Under 11's schoolboy team.

I love the attitude he's instilled into the players and the passion he still has for the game but for the club to progress we absolutely must add a higher degree of skill to our play. All should become clearer when we discover his transfer targets for next season.

51% successful pass rate is appalling. And Mick will be well aware of that.

The issue is that even the decent passing players have been groomed by successive managers to hoof the ball.

Changing that mentality and approach doesn't change overnight.

However, to be positive, if we added more composure, passing and technical ability to the team we would be a real force when you combine those attributes with the passion, determination, workrate and set-pieces.

I imagine that will mainly be resolved on the training pitch and pre season with a few additions.

[MOZZER2]

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we've been saying this for the best part of 10 years so I don't think too much is going to change in the foreseeable future

the club needs a massive restructure from top to bottom if we are going to be a threat in playing the passing game . How much I'd love to see us play like wolves and Leicester down the stadium when we are allowed back in

then again some posters like the way we play now ! each to there own

[Rock_Flock_of_Five]

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51% successful pass rate is appalling. And Mick will be well aware of that.

The issue is that even the decent passing players have been groomed by successive managers to hoof the ball.

Changing that mentality and approach doesn't change overnight.

However, to be positive, if we added more composure, passing and technical ability to the team we would be a real force when you combine those attributes with the passion, determination, workrate and set-pieces.

I imagine that will mainly be resolved on the training pitch and pre season with a few additions.

Who do you think are the decent passers of a ball that we've got?

I will tell you the ones I think are NOT capable of passing well. No matter if they were instructed by the manager to put their foot on the ball and pick a pass, the following would always struggle....
Vaulks, Ralls, Flint, Morrison, Nelson, Bacuna are all poor at passing. If they had it in them to pass well we would have seen it by now.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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I think mm record since taking over has been amazing

We have won a shedload of games

And we recently won a local Derby against a top 3 side heavily tipped for promotion

That will do for me

[Seabird]

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The bad-passing affliction seems to have been picked up by Marlon Pack. He used to be able to see a pass and occasionally successfully completed one or two but now he does very much the same as the rest of the side, either a hopeful punt forward or a pass to a man in the wrong colour shirt.

[mazadona10]

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There seems to constant talk of changing the style of play. I get every fan wants to see beautiful football but I think some people need to accept that's not going to happen anytime soon.

I think any dramatic change in style would mean being a lot less successful and would no way guarantee getting back to where we have been for the past 10 years.

[Des Parrot]

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Can’t see any rebuilding this summer. Replace the loans with more loans and buy Keiffer mark 2 that’ll be the limit

[olderblue]

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I think the difference is going into the summer we have a few talented youngsters who will claim a start in the squad of 18
Soon we could be watching Phillips, Ng Sang Bagan Brown Colwell, Harris all in the first team, and who knows what other promising youngsters are coming through.
I wonder what Sang would look like playing in the middle of the park as he looks decent on the ball and composed, the loan players will I expect all go back to their parent clubs, I don't think we'd be in a position to buy any of them?
Maybe sell Smithies and buy back Etheridge and the 2-3 million pounds difference goes straight into a war chest for Mick.
One things for certain if there is any change in style it will certainly be an evolution rather than revolution under Mick.
His current record demonstrates that he knows exactly what he is doing to give a team a fighting chance of the top 6 finish for next year

[Cyncoed Slumdog]

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I think the difference is going into the summer we have a few talented youngsters who will claim a start in the squad of 18
Soon we could be watching Phillips, Ng Sang Bagan Brown Colwell, Harris all in the first team, and who knows what other promising youngsters are coming through.
I wonder what Sang would look like playing in the middle of the park as he looks decent on the ball and composed, the loan players will I expect all go back to their parent clubs, I don't think we'd be in a position to buy any of them?
Maybe sell Smithies and buy back Etheridge and the 2-3 million pounds difference goes straight into a war chest for Mick.
One things for certain if there is any change in style it will certainly be an evolution rather than revolution under Mick.
His current record demonstrates that he knows exactly what he is doing to give a team a fighting chance of the top 6 finish for next year

Agree with a lot of that but why on earth would we buy back Etheridge?

[surge]

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There seems to constant talk of changing the style of play. I get every fan wants to see beautiful football but I think some people need to accept that's not going to happen anytime soon.

I think any dramatic change in style would mean being a lot less successful and would no way guarantee getting back to where we have been for the past 10 years.

I'd suggest it's more changing our skillset instead of changing the style. Nothing wrong with defending like we did for 45 minutes on Saturday just as long as you have the capacity to play long passes (or several short passes) to get you up the pitch at the right moment rather than just hoofing it away.

How much of that was down to player fatigue though?

[the other bob wilson]

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Let’s see what our squad looks like when we go back to seven subs - I’m not convinced that our desire to include youngsters will be so strong then.

[The Lone Gunman]

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There seems to constant talk of changing the style of play. I get every fan wants to see beautiful football but I think some people need to accept that's not going to happen anytime soon.

I think any dramatic change in style would mean being a lot less successful and would no way guarantee getting back to where we have been for the past 10 years.

I don't think every fan wants to see beautiful football. On the contrary, this board provides clear evidence every day that plenty of fans are more than happy with the kind of football City are currently playing, which is anything but beautiful.

As regards your suggestion that a change of style would result in the team being a lot less successful, I guess that would depend on how you actually measure success.

[The Lone Gunman]

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How much of that was down to player fatigue though?

There was an incident towards the end of the first half on Saturday when the ball fell to Ciaran Brown on the left-hand side of the penalty area following a Swansea corner. He carried the ball five or six yards and then simply whacked it forty or fifty yards into the opposition half. He made no attempt whatsoever to play the ball to a teammate. I don't think that was down to fatigue.

Mick McCarthy has inherited a squad full of a certain type of player who play the game a certain type of way. Whether he has any desire to change the current footballing philosophy at the club will become apparent during the summer, but based on what we've seen so far I can't believe any change in style will be significant.

[A Quiet Monkfish]

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I don't think every fan wants to see beautiful football. On the contrary, this board provides clear evidence every day that plenty of fans are more than happy with the kind of football City are currently playing, which is anything but beautiful.

As regards your suggestion that a change of style would result in the team being a lot less successful, I guess that would depend on how you actually measure success.

Beautiful football ? Just football would be something..