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As most informed people have been saying since day 1 he had no choice but to agree a deal. And as most informed people have been saying since day 1 it no doubt involves many messy compromises that leave absolutely no one better off. So, yeah, well done Boris.Originally posted by Whisperer View PostSee Boris strutted is stuff with Ursula and brought us back a deal today, which many said was impossible.
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Let's see how good a deal this is when we get to see the details.
All I've picked up so far is that -
the professional qualifications of Barristers (or did he say Baristas?) are still recognised across the EU, but others aren't.
Students aren't free to study in the EU anymore
British police wont have open access to European police databases and vice versa, so the sharing of intelligence wont be as straightforward as before
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He's gotten a deal. Everyone thought he could get 'a' deal - Teresa May was close to a deal. The question is if he got a good deal. Which remains to be seen.Originally posted by Whisperer View PostSee Boris strutted is stuff with Ursula and brought us back a deal today, which many said was impossible.
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Boris Johnson had little, if anything of significance, to do with the Brexit deal. He clearly doesnt understand that which has been negotiated. "The biggest imposition of red tape in 50 years" Wales, Scotland and Northetn Ireland will see little, if any, of the control which has been taken back.Originally posted by Whisperer View PostSee Boris strutted is stuff with Ursula and brought us back a deal today, which many said was impossible.
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Both sides wanted a deal that would allow them to walk away saying they had secured the things important to them even if that was to be heavily compromised. We now get to wait for the details to see where the compromises have come and what it means for us, but if you're a business trying to implement any changes needed you've now got just 3 working days to manage it all and it seems the EU is much further ahead in its preparation.
Boris' role now is to convince people any fallout is responsibility of covid rather than Brexit before then falling on his sword and allowing the next contender to say any negative outcome was Boris rather than the party. It's highly likely both that anyone with enough time on their hand will be able to see through that and that group will be a minority.
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That'll piss off some of the 52% who didn't want a deal, despite never being sold no deal at the time of the referendum.Originally posted by Whisperer View PostIt was never gonna be a perfect deal but a deals a deal.
Sadly, there was never going to be a deal that meant the UK would be economically better off outside the EU. There was never going to be a deal that meant the UK would be economically better off outside the customs union and single market.
But we have a deal. A deal that is worth almost piss all. It's fractionally better for the UK than no deal, but significantly worse than a deal that would have kept us closer to Europe.
I notice a video is being shared around of Jim Davidson saying how we don't need a deal, that things are shit enough that they can't get shitter. I find it scary that people value the opinion of a racist, drunken, failed far-right comedian over professors and doctors of economics, trade etc. Shows how far down the shitter the country has slid.
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