Scottish Independence

[Barmy]

Re: Scottish Independence

On a personal level I sincerely hope that if there is to be another referendum, the result is the same as the last one.

I have no particular affinity for the Scots but I would hate to see the break up of the Union.

The SNP seems to attract some of the most loathsome creatures on the planet. OK slightly OTT, but I really detest Ian Blackford, Alex Salmond and Mrs Krankie herself and hope that their plans for independence go up in smoke and they disappear into oblivion.

I assume you dislike these people equally, so why do you find it nessesary to make a personal insult to the female?

[Moodybluebird]

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I assume you dislike these people equally, so why do you find it nessesary to make a personal insult to the female?

You're right that I dislike these people equally, which would have been obvious if youl'd have read my other post in which I refer to Blackford as an annoying whinge bag and Salmond as Mr Smug. Incidentally in the same post I refer to Sturgeon as a smart cookie, hardly an insult.

You may wish to champion female causes, which is fine but please weigh up all the facts first before having a pop at me.

[Rjk]

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I think Scotland will become independent in the next 10 years. Ireland will be reunified in a similar timeframe.

even without the off shore, their economy is a similar size to Greece, Ireland or Portugal and you wouldn't say that any of those were too small to survive.
They are also markedly more left wing than the UK government, but tha majority of the tie have a right wing government foisted upon them.

It'll be interesting to see what happens when it is just us and England.

[surge]

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In the EU referendum we were told that than unelected politicians were a problem but now we have a House of Lords larger than the EU parliament. 85 Lords were born into the role (Senedd is 60 members) while others get awarded it for being friends or useful to government of the time.

How can that be described as a good model?

[xsnaggle]

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I think Scotland will become independent in the next 10 years. Ireland will be reunified in a similar timeframe.

even without the off shore, their economy is a similar size to Greece, Ireland or Portugal and you wouldn't say that any of those were too small to survive.
They are also markedly more left wing than the UK government, but tha majority of the tie have a right wing government foisted upon them.

It'll be interesting to see what happens when it is just us and England.

If you think Ireland will be united I think you're pissing in the wind. If they do it will cause a bloodbath that will make the recent troubles look like a tea party.

[Rjk]

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If you think Ireland will be united I think you're pissing in the wind. If they do it will cause a bloodbath that will make the recent troubles look like a tea party.

it will be, It is only a matter of time.

the demographics have been shifting significantly over the decades.
by the early 2000s there were already almost a majority of Catholic people in Northern Ireland, just many of them were too young to vote. this is probably what was the main driver to a peaceful process being successful - there wasn't a need for violence any more, and end was in sight.
Brexit as well has given reunification a further push, some people I'd spoken to who were unionists for economic reasons without strong feelings on the other aspects, were starting to change their mind as they would have preferred to have stayed in the EU

[xsnaggle]

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I understand your thinking but sadly the people of Ireland have never needed a "need" for violence against the people of Ireland. It is almost wired into them, believe me.

[Croesy Blue]

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I understand your thinking but sadly the people of Ireland have never needed a "need" for violence against the people of Ireland. It is almost wired into them, believe me.

I don’t think it is like that these days not amongst the younger ones anyway.

There would probably be some issues but nothing like 20 or 30 years ago.

[jon1959]

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it will be, It is only a matter of time.

the demographics have been shifting significantly over the decades.
by the early 2000s there were already almost a majority of Catholic people in Northern Ireland, just many of them were too young to vote. this is probably what was the main driver to a peaceful process being successful - there wasn't a need for violence any more, and end was in sight.
Brexit as well has given reunification a further push, some people I'd spoken to who were unionists for economic reasons without strong feelings on the other aspects, were starting to change their mind as they would have preferred to have stayed in the EU

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/more-than-half-in-north-want-vote-on-a-united-ireland-poll-finds-1.4466547

[ToTaL ITK]

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Are brits coming home in droves from marbella? thought not

[William Treseder]

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I think Scotland will become independent in the next 10 years. Ireland will be reunified in a similar timeframe.

even without the off shore, their economy is a similar size to Greece, Ireland or Portugal and you wouldn't say that any of those were too small to survive.
They are also markedly more left wing than the UK government, but tha majority of the tie have a right wing government foisted upon them.

It'll be interesting to see what happens when it is just us and England.

As with football and cricket , we’ll be hanging on to their coat tails.

[Barmy]

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You're right that I dislike these people equally, which would have been obvious if youl'd have read my other post in which I refer to Blackford as an annoying whinge bag and Salmond as Mr Smug. Incidentally in the same post I refer to Sturgeon as a smart cookie, hardly an insult.

You may wish to champion female causes, which is fine but please weigh up all the facts first before having a pop at me.

Sorry, not trying to judge you on the strength of one post. It just seems strange to use her appearance as a negative.
This seems to happen a lot more with women and must dissuade some talented people from entering politics which is a shame.

[Croesy Blue]

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Are brits coming home in droves from marbella? thought not

Only the ones who didn’t fill in their paperwork

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1415577/Brexit-news-latest-eu-vaccine-block-astrazeneca-uk-john-redwood-boris-johnson

I imagine moving there is a lot harder now too.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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Only the ones who didn’t fill in their paperwork

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1415577/Brexit-news-latest-eu-vaccine-block-astrazeneca-uk-john-redwood-boris-johnson

I imagine moving there is a lot harder now too.

"Fellow returning expat Shaun Cromber voted Leave but said he did not believe Brexit would end his Spanish lifestyle.
He said: "Yes I voted out, but I didn’t realise it would come to this." "

[Croesy Blue]

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I did find that quite funny what did he expect would come of it?!

The worst thing is he could have applied for settled status in 15 minutes and it wouldn’t have come to this.