Scottish Independence

[LeningradCowboy]

Re: Scottish Independence

I find it odd, in a way, that those of a right wing persuasion use tales of economic woe in order to keep Scotland at the UK table, yet generally right wing politics looks at ways of saving taxpayer money and surely Scotland leaving the UK would do such a thing?

I feel that there's an element of Scotland needing to be "told of their place" to keep them in the UK. That's horrific. Scotland don't need to be told of where they stand by anyone else.

Wales has suffered the same. We became, during Victorian times, the stereotype of what England thought we were.

Perhaps the rest of us should have a referendum on kicking them out.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Re: Scottish Independence

I find it odd, in a way, that those of a right wing persuasion use tales of economic woe in order to keep Scotland at the UK table, yet generally right wing politics looks at ways of saving taxpayer money and surely Scotland leaving the UK would do such a thing?

I feel that there's an element of Scotland needing to be "told of their place" to keep them in the UK. That's horrific. Scotland don't need to be told of where they stand by anyone else.

Wales has suffered the same. We became, during Victorian times, the stereotype of what England thought we were.

I understand what you mean and in many ways England would be better off shedding Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland - but I think that there is tremendous affection for the Scots in England and across the political divide.

[xsnaggle]

Re: Scottish Independence

I find it odd, in a way, that those of a right wing persuasion use tales of economic woe in order to keep Scotland at the UK table, yet generally right wing politics looks at ways of saving taxpayer money and surely Scotland leaving the UK would do such a thing?

I feel that there's an element of Scotland needing to be "told of their place" to keep them in the UK. That's horrific. Scotland don't need to be told of where they stand by anyone else.

Wales has suffered the same. We became, during Victorian times, the stereotype of what England thought we were.

I am not trying to tell tales of economic woe to keep them at the table at all, in fact I'd be quite happy if the bugger off, I don't really care one way or the other. I just feel that perhaps as with Brexit, the jingoism is hiding the harsh economic reality. And their new economic reality will be far harsher I believe than anything Brexit may have allegedly inflicted on them.

You are quite right, the Scots don't need to be told where they stand by anyone else, but they do deserve to be told it by their own politicians who hide the truth from them for their own political ends. However badly it might go their place in history is assured