Sensible Debate , Part Two

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Turnbull

Quality player

If Ramsey was fit , Siopis , Ralls and Wintle and Turnbull would make a good midfield

He gets a dig from some fans because let's be honest the rest of the team are not pulling up trees and Ramsey and Odowda have hardly featured

[the other bob wilson]

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Turnbull

Quality player

If Ramsey was fit , Siopis , Ralls and Wintle and Turnbull would make a good midfield

He gets a dig from some fans because let's be honest the rest of the team are not pulling up trees and Ramsey and Odowda have hardly featured

Am I the only City fan who thinks Siopis is over rated and the sort of player we didn’t need?

As for Turnbull, I’d like to see a bit more of him before coming to a definitive opinion on him, but can anyone say that he’s done anything yet to justify his alleged transfer fee of £2 million or even a quarter of that sum?

[The Lone Gunman]

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Am I the only City fan who thinks Siopis is over rated and the sort of player we didn’t need?

No. I think Siopis is vastly overrated by many City fans simply because he runs around a lot. His passing is woeful for a midfielder at this level. His work rate is admirable and his ability to win possession is commendable, but it’s usually a waste of time as he so often gives the ball straight back to the opposition. To say he lacks composure is putting it kindly.

I’ve got no firm opinion on Turnbull. He’s shown very little in his ten appearances so far, but he’s playing under a manager who is ridiculously negative and defensive, so it’s probably not fair to judge him just yet.

[llan bluebird]

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In a team so devoid of pace Bulut buys one of the slowest players since Joe Mason. You can see his quality as one of the few players that appears to take the ball no matter how many players are around him. But, with Colwill or Ramsey up there with him, we can forget any serious press.

I think Bulut thought Siopis would be a defensive midfielder but found he doesn't have the time and simply gets overpowered in the championship. Wouldn't be surprised if he moved over the summer. I think he and Ralls work as two sitters but with that, your full backs need to be attacking but ours rarely cross halfway.

[2b2bdoo]

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Turnbull has been underwhelming for me, not to say he’s a bad player I just think he’s along the lines of what we already have, like the others he lacks pace and physicality. Maybe under another manager he makes more of an impact, in our current set up I don’t see enough in him to play as a 10 or in the 2 sitting.

As for Siopis he can be very good and equally as terrible. I think the post above is spot on, he’s decent alongside Ralls but alongside Wintle he’s just chasing shadows all game and we lose all shape.

Despite us signing Turnbull and Siopis, midfield is still an area we struggle.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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No. I think Siopis is vastly overrated by many City fans simply because he runs around a lot.

In fairness to Sludge, Willie Boland did exactly the same and he was Sludge's hero!

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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Am I the only City fan who thinks Siopis is over rated and the sort of player we didn’t need?

As for Turnbull, I’d like to see a bit more of him before coming to a definitive opinion on him, but can anyone say that he’s done anything yet to justify his alleged transfer fee of £2 million or even a quarter of that sum?

As for Turnbull, it would be interesting to see him in a more attack minded line up.

There's a family fun day at the stadium on Wednesday between 10am-2pm where the players will be training. My nearly 11-year-old reckons that "defensive training will run between 10:00am and 1:59:59pm; attack training will be in the final second".

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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In fairness to Sludge, Willie Boland did exactly the same and he was Sludge's hero!

We don't need another hero

Thunderdome !

[The Prophet of Doom]

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Turnbull is a disappointment if we really paid £2million for him! He has hardly made a huge impression.

Siopsis is like Steve Lynex runs around a lot which impresses the fans but actually contributes very little. Sorry showing my age there..

[Hilts]

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Turnbull is a disappointment if we really paid £2million for him! He has hardly made a huge impression.

Siopsis is like Steve Lynex runs around a lot which impresses the fans but actually contributes very little. Sorry showing my age there..

Thats too far. Lynex was utter shit. Siopsis is a decent player.

[PontBlue]

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I'm undecided on Turnbull. Maybe we could try him in a dual 10 role with Ramsey or Colwill but this manager is never going to do that.

[Steve the Tea]

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No. I think Siopis is vastly overrated by many City fans simply because he runs around a lot. His passing is woeful for a midfielder at this level. His work rate is admirable and his ability to win possession is commendable, but it’s usually a waste of time as he so often gives the ball straight back to the opposition. To say he lacks composure is putting it kindly.

I’ve got no firm opinion on Turnbull. He’s shown very little in his ten appearances so far, but he’s playing under a manager who is ridiculously negative and defensive, so it’s probably not fair to judge him just yet.

Against Ipswich Siopis' pass completion rate was 87% [Sofa Score].

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[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Siopis is a workhorse

Does all the dirty work to enable others to shine

In our case that's supposed to be Ramsey who's out injured and colwill , Tanner and bowler who all need to shape up in my opinion

If siopis or ralls or Wintle mess up it can be curtains whereas the forward runners often get out of jail

[The Lone Gunman]

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Against Ipswich Siopis' pass completion rate was 87% [Sofa Score].

Wonderful. What about the rest of the season? Or have my eyes been deceiving me?