Can anyone explain

[bluesp]

The point of going to a game to just slag off your suppoised own team and manager for 80 odd minutes? Bloke and his mate sat near us yesterday, never seen them before. From about the second minute until they left with about 10 minutes to go constantly bitching and moaning. The one guy, big bald chap, was particularly vociferous and had a big dislike for Collins and to a lesser extent Meite. And of course he was full of telling the manager where to go. Fortunately he was a bit less shouty second half, especially when we scored. I don’t get what someone like that goes to a game for? I get we weren’t great again yesterday, but at least support the team you’ve come to watch! It reminded me a bit of Crewe away in the cup when a known hooligan from back in the day was racially abusing a City player, and the FA Cup final when the teenagers behind us were again racially abusing a City player. Surely a “supporter” supports?

[Rock_Flock_of_Five]

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The point of going to a game to just slag off your suppoised own team and manager for 80 odd minutes? Bloke and his mate sat near us yesterday, never seen them before. From about the second minute until they left with about 10 minutes to go constantly bitching and moaning. The one guy, big bald chap, was particularly vociferous and had a big dislike for Collins and to a lesser extent Meite. And of course he was full of telling the manager where to go. Fortunately he was a bit less shouty second half, especially when we scored. I don’t get what someone like that goes to a game for? I get we weren’t great again yesterday, but at least support the team you’ve come to watch! It reminded me a bit of Crewe away in the cup when a known hooligan from back in the day was racially abusing a City player, and the FA Cup final when the teenagers behind us were again racially abusing a City player. Surely a “supporter” supports?

Wait a moment, you just said that these two guys had shown a dislike for both Collins and Meite. Then you attempt to draw parallels between past incidents of racial abuse from City fans. Are you suggesting that these two were guilty of racial abuse too? If so, why didn't you report them?
If all they did was moan and complain, then welcome to football! They paid their entrance money the same as you.

BTW: I have a mild dislike of Meite and Collins as footballers, I happen to think they're not very good.

[bluesp]

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I didn’t say they were guilty of that, more that they made the match experience uncomfortable in the same way.
Whether the players are good or not I’d rather give them a chance every game they play. I go to the games to support them team not looking to moan from pretty much the start. I guess we are all different though

[Rock_Flock_of_Five]

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I didn’t say they were guilty of that, more that they made the match experience uncomfortable in the same way.
Whether the players are good or not I’d rather give them a chance every game they play. I go to the games to support them team not looking to moan from pretty much the start. I guess we are all different though

But why even mention racist incidents?

[Rock_Flock_of_Five]

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For me, there's a hugely different degree of feeling uncomfortable when someone is hurling racist abuse compared with someone who is not happy with how a player is playing.

[bluesp]

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But why even mention racist incidents?

They were two comparable personal experiences that came to mind. I can’t remember many other similar people I’ve sat or stood next to in the years of home/ away games.

[bluesp]

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For me, there's a hugely different degree of feeling uncomfortable when someone is hurling racist abuse compared with someone who is not happy with how a player is playing.

Of course. The point I was trying to make was about supporting the team as opposed to looking for a reason to get on a player’s back from the get go. In hindsight I should have left out those two events.

[Rock_Flock_of_Five]

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Of course. The point I was trying to make was about supporting the team as opposed to looking for a reason to get on a player’s back from the get go. In hindsight I should have left out those two events.

Fair enough! :thumbup:

[llan bluebird]

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Its just frustration mate. The city may be high on his life priorities, places a lot on the day and sees two players nowhere near the level he expects.

He could have been me apart from I am not bald, although I spent all game saying how overrated Siopis is after about the tenth time he gave the ball away and how lucky we are to have Ralls.

[Robin Friday's Ghost]

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I have to say my reaction to the dross we were again served up yesterday was apathy. It was so soul destroying all I could muster for our goal was a polite clapping of hands. I wasn't in the least surprised when they scored minutes later although the comedic nature was a novelty at least.

I freely admit I don't know who we'd appoint as a replacement for Bulut. I do know that the idea of suffering the same boring, unadventurous crap next season makes me question whether I want to renew my ST after a few decades of having one. If Bulut has an idea of what he's trying to do at the club, other than boring us to death, I don't.

[A Quiet Monkfish]

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It wasn't me. Throughout the season I've been raising my eyes up to the Almighty in thanks and praise for our glorious team and the football they've delivered week in, week out..

[William Treseder]

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I agree with the OP here. I was at the game yesterday and it was abysmal. I’ve been going down the City since the 70’s, and seen some right dross over the yrs, but I’ve never once got on a players or managers back, or shouted abuse during a game.i’d rather let them know at the half time whistle, and the full time whistle.

[Dembe]

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You want people to explain why strangers they've never met are frustrated and disillusioned with the club and being vocal about it right now?

[bluesp]

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I agree with the OP here. I was at the game yesterday and it was abysmal. I’ve been going down the City since the 70’s, and seen some right dross over the yrs, but I’ve never once got on a players or managers back, or shouted abuse during a game.i’d rather let them know at the half time whistle, and the full time whistle.

Wise words

[bluesp]

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You want people to explain why strangers they've never met are frustrated and disillusioned with the club and being vocal about it right now?

Not quite what I was getting at. More about the bringing of negativity to the game from the start, singling out players based on perceived previous displays rather than what you’re seeing. The individual in question clearly made people around him uncomfortable with his very loud opinions btw