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  • #16
    Re: We have two choices...

    Originally posted by OurManFlint II View Post
    No, read it again. i was identifying the term which i think was invented by the english but got traction
    by FC Barcelona and Catalan players who had a superiority complex, however, due to the popular global reach of the game it was was picked up and pushed into the mainstream by Catalan/Spanish press towards man utd (and other English teams that year) due to contrasting styles, its a terrible clique, i was hoping to give you some context to the phrase.
    What is Bulut’s brand of football “pro” then? How, apart from blind loyalty, does it fire up supporters and get them looking forward to his team’s next game? Lots of teams play a counter attacking game in which they are happy to give their opponents possession, but there aren’t many that do it in such a dull fashion as a Bulut team.

    As to the original question, I think it needs to be borne in mind that it’s almost certainly true to say that some managers who might otherwise be interested in the Cardiff job are put off by the prospect of working for our owner.

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    • #17
      Re: We have two choices...

      Originally posted by NYCBlue View Post
      The only way forward is a DOF. Otherwise, we're going to be stuck in a cycle of new managers, new players and a new system. We'll never have a chance to build. Unless, we can come up with a known quantity with a track record of sustainable, entertaining football. I'd be inclined to give Bulut a 2 year deal and some money to spend. We have to stop relying on loans.
      In all the conversations about Dalman Choo Tan and Bulut and their lack of football sense for my 2 shillings I believe that appointing a proper professional DoF would resolve many of the key expressed concerns

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      • #18
        Re: We have two choices...

        Obviously mid table is far better than a relegation battle, but I can see nothing to suggest that can be built on.
        I wouldn't extend his contract, but that does then make me worry about who the hell they'd replace him with.

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        • #19
          Re: We have two choices...

          Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
          What is Bulut’s brand of football “pro” then? How, apart from blind loyalty, does it fire up supporters and get them looking forward to his team’s next game? Lots of teams play a counter attacking game in which they are happy to give their opponents possession, but there aren’t many that do it in such a dull fashion as a Bulut team.

          As to the original question, I think it needs to be borne in mind that it’s almost certainly true to say that some managers who might otherwise be interested in the Cardiff job are put off by the prospect of working for our owner.
          I have a guess. Bulut’s slower style is more reminiscient of Southern Med football. Geared to hot climates that is what he is used to. You very rarely see teams from hot countries to play fast non-stop footy. It isn’t sustainable in the heat. They play generally slower only with fast bursts in phases.

          If that is fhe style he is used to, and that is his reason, then it may explain why he doesn’t change, if he and his No.2 haven’t coached that way. It may explain it. If true, it shows a lack of research by the club. It is why a better quality analysis of coaches is required.

          If I were Cardiff, I would go and get the brains behind Swansea’s person who used to analyse and select coaches pre-US ownership, because that worked for them. They found consistent line of coaches who played a good style and found bargains in the UK and European market on regular basis.

          As long as they weren’t die-hard Swansea fans and are open to recruitment at a good fee, if I would Dalman, Choo or Tan I would go and dig into that story.

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