FFS not again

[North Cardiff Blue]

We won away, played a bit, were solid, and scored the right type of goal, but only won by one ffs that's terrible, I can't be happy :hehe:

[MOZZER2]

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Bulut Out

only going to do away trips next season sod the home games :hehe:

[Lord Worcester]

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Bulut Out

only going to do away trips next season sod the home games :hehe:

I know you’re joking but that’s how I really feel. Loving the trips, dreading the home games!!

[MOZZER2]

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I know you’re joking but that’s how I really feel. Loving the trips, dreading the home games!!

Brum is hardly an away game for you :hehe:

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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We won away, played a bit, were solid, and scored the right type of goal, but only won by one ffs that's terrible, I can't be happy :hehe:

Here's how we finished in terms of home league table and away league table since the Premier League under Warnock:

2018/19: H: 19 A: 17
2019/20: H: 4 A: 9
2020/21: H: 16 A: 3
2021/22: H: 21 A: 10
2022/23: H: 20 A: 19
2023/24: H: 13 A: 8

Apart from last season, our away form has been generally decent, even good. Our home form has been poor for several seasons now and even this season hasn't seen a great improvement. That's nothing against Bulut or any of the other managers, but this has been a consistent theme for 4 seasons now.

[MOZZER2]

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Here's how we finished in terms of home league table and away league table since the Premier League under Warnock:

2018/19: H: 19 A: 17
2019/20: H: 4 A: 9
2020/21: H: 16 A: 3
2021/22: H: 21 A: 10
2022/23: H: 20 A: 19
2023/24: H: 13 A: 8

Apart from last season, our away form has been generally decent, even good. Our home form has been poor for several seasons now and even this season hasn't seen a great improvement. That's nothing against Bulut or any of the other managers, but this has been a consistent theme for 4 seasons now.

was going to point this out later today but thanks for highlighting this

the question is why ?

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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was going to point this out later today but thanks for highlighting this

the question is why ?

I think it's been a general case of not being very good at breaking teams down when we attack. At home the onus is on the home team to "have a go", yet we've been better sitting back, inviting teams on to us then attacking on the break. Our poor stats from open play for a number of seasons show we're not great at opening teams up. Nothing has really changed this season but we battle hard at set pieces and score lots from them, particularly from second balls where we're first to react.

[J R Hartley]

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Here's how we finished in terms of home league table and away league table since the Premier League under Warnock:

2018/19: H: 19 A: 17
2019/20: H: 4 A: 9
2020/21: H: 16 A: 3
2021/22: H: 21 A: 10
2022/23: H: 20 A: 19
2023/24: H: 13 A: 8

Apart from last season, our away form has been generally decent, even good. Our home form has been poor for several seasons now and even this season hasn't seen a great improvement. That's nothing against Bulut or any of the other managers, but this has been a consistent theme for 4 seasons now.

Because since Neil Harris left we have generally had passive, negative, cautious managers not prepared to get on the front foot. Plus the squad has generally been void of creative players, especially in midfield. Managers and a squad more comfortable with trying to keep it tight away from home and nick a goal, usually a set piece, but when the onus is on us as the home side to attack we have been found seriously wanting.

Even Harris wasnt all out attack but the season we made the play offs he had a fit Tomlin and certainly played to our attacking strengths. No manager since has been prepared to throw bodies forward at home, or play a style of play to get on the front foot and give the fans something to get behind. Its little wonder the CCS resembles a library these days.

[BLUETIT]

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Chant last night, “Get him off, get him off, get him off”

5 minutes later “Keep him on, keep him on, keep him on” :hehe::hehe:

Funny as f uck

[MOZZER2]

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Because since Neil Harris left we have generally had passive, negative, cautious managers not prepared to get on the front foot. Plus the squad has generally been void of creative players, especially in midfield. Managers and a squad more comfortable with trying to keep it tight away from home and nick a goal, usually a set piece, but when the onus is on us as the home side to attack we have been found seriously wanting.

Even Harris wasnt all out attack but the season we made the play offs he had a fit Tomlin and certainly played to our attacking strengths. No manager since has been prepared to throw bodies forward at home, or play a style of play to get on the front foot and give the fans something to get behind. Its little wonder the CCS resembles a library these days.

Whether we like it or not its a results based business and Managers careers hinge on them

here are some stats which i,ve nicked from the other board which is interesting reading

Of the 18 teams who were in the championship last season and are in it this season Cardiff so far increase their points from last season to this season by just over 20% This is the best increase of any team that is still in the division from last season.

Just pointing out that it is a big achievement where we were at beginning of season with a transfer embargo

You can't argue with stats like that and I think we have over achieved this season :thumbup:

Would be nice to play with panache and style week in week out of course on a consistent basis but lets be realistic we just haven't got the quality at the minute . Bulut would be perfect for a side like Norwich as an example in the championship who have better quality

[North Cardiff Blue]

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Whether we like it or not its a results based business and Managers careers hinge on them

here are some stats which i,ve nicked from the other board which is interesting reading

Of the 18 teams who were in the championship last season and are in it this season Cardiff so far increase their points from last season to this season by just over 20% This is the best increase of any team that is still in the division from last season.

Just pointing out that it is a big achievement where we were at beginning of season with a transfer embargo

You can't argue with stats like that and I think we have over achieved this season :thumbup:

Would be nice to play with panache and style week in week out of course on a consistent basis but lets be realistic we just haven't got the quality at the minute . Bulut would be perfect for a side like Norwich as an example in the championship who have better quality

Of the 18 teams who were in the championship last season and are in it this season Cardiff so far increase their points from last season to this season by just over 20% This is the best increase of any team that is still in the division from last season.

Also we had an Embargo and lost the three best players.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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Of the 18 teams who were in the championship last season and are in it this season Cardiff so far increase their points from last season to this season by just over 20% This is the best increase of any team that is still in the division from last season.

Just pointing out that it is a big achievement where we were at beginning of season with a transfer embargo

You can't argue with stats like that

Let's have a go, anyway :hehe:

The stat is incorrect for starters. 59 points this season and 41 points last season is an increase of 43.9%. The increase is 18 points.

In 2017/18 we won 62 points and won promotion the following season with 90 points. The percentage increase was 45% but the actual increase was 28 points. Percentage-wise virtually the same as this season but a far greater points increase. It's likely that's the greatest percentage increase for teams in the Championship last season, but as our points tally was lower than any other, it's less of an achievement - 43.9% for a side with, say, 60 points last season would mean a 26 point increase.

Suppose we'd won 5 points last season. A 43.9% increase would see us win 7 points this season. 85 points last season would result in an increase to 122 points at 43.9%.

Does a 43.9% increase in points from last season sound better than an actual increase of 18 points? I don't know. I'd just use actual points instead of percentages.

[MOZZER2]

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Let's have a go, anyway :hehe:

The stat is incorrect for starters. 59 points this season and 41 points last season is an increase of 43.9%. The increase is 18 points.

In 2017/18 we won 62 points and won promotion the following season with 90 points. The percentage increase was 45% but the actual increase was 28 points. Percentage-wise virtually the same as this season but a far greater points increase.

One flaw with using percentages in something like this is that, the lower the number of points from the season before, the smaller the actual increase in points for the same percentage.

Suppose we'd won 5 points last season. A 43.9% increase would see us win 7 points this season. 85 points last season would result in an increase to 122 points at 43.9%.

Does a 43.9% increase in points from last season sound better than an actual increase of 18 points? I don't know. I'd just use actual points instead of percentages.

imagine trying to digest that after a night out :hehe:

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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imagine trying to digest that after a night out :hehe:

Ignore it anyway. We won 49 points last season, not 41. I was looking at goals scored for some stupid reason. It is 20%, but the point still stands.

In any case, percentage or otherwise, we've gained more points than any other side in last season's Championship.

Cardiff City 10
Norwich City 6
West Bromwich Albion 6
Hull City 4
Preston North End 0
Bristol City -2
Queens Park Rangers -3
Coventry City -7
Stoke City -7
Huddersfield Town -10
Birmingham City -11
Watford -11
Middlesbrough -13
Sunderland -16
Swansea City -16
Millwall -21
Blackburn Rovers -23
Rotherham United -27

[J R Hartley]

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Of the 18 teams who were in the championship last season and are in it this season Cardiff so far increase their points from last season to this season by just over 20% This is the best increase of any team that is still in the division from last season.

Also we had an Embargo and lost the three best players.

You do realise we replaced those players? And a transfer embargo didnt stop us signing players, just couldnt pay a fee like 75% of the clubs in the division. As Dalman says himself, we are top 6 when it comes to wage bill.

You and Moz are fighting it out to be Buluts version of that Comical Ali fella. :hehe:

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