Another Colwill thread.

[Hilts]

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He definitely said Colwill was outstanding.

[A Quiet Monkfish]

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Russell Martin thought he was “outstanding” today.

So does AQM. I'm certain Bulut wanted to keep him on the pitch for the whole game as much for his influence as well as proving a point to Colwill as well.

[Nobody's Rep]

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I think TWGL1 was joking.

Okay a bit of a whoosh for me then ?? I still don't get it hough 😂😂

[Tuerto]

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Russ knows best then, Because not one person commented on Colwill's performance in the match thread or lifted one of the many threads on hear about him to offer their praise. Just goes to show that us fans haven't got a clue, eh..

[Hilts]

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Okay a bit of a whoosh for me then ?? I still don't get it hough 😂😂

Russell Martin is known for using the word brave about his players in interviews.

[AdrianAlston]

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I think Buluts will stay and it would be a shame to waste another year with managers learning about players. I doubt he'll get an extension if he can't explain to Uncle Vinny how he is going to get a few of these academy kids worth serious offers and Rubin will be heading that category.

Ashford & I Davies are similar to Grant IMO, they are not "wingers" but inside forwards and need to play in that inside channel rather than the touchline. I can see us three at the back, wingbacks with two sitters as cover and Rubin gets the attacking central midfielder slot he undoubtedly should be given.

I said on the other forum that Bulut still insists on square pegs in round holes and when they all rotated back into their preferred position the team played better than multi million pound SOTON.

I'd agree with most of that, apart from us playing better than Soton. For 60+ minutes they battered us.

What yesterday did prove was that with Bulut's low press we need pace and directness in transition. This was provided (yesterday) by Tanner, Ashford, Colwill (when playing 10), Meite (when he played right wing) and Conte.

Bowler, Wintle (when playing 10) and Turnbull do not supply this. Furthermore, for all their qualities, Collins and Ng are not exactly 'buccaneering' full backs.

So your comments about square pegs in round holes is spot on. The positional changes of Colwill and Meite as well as the introduction of Conte were the game changers.

I really hope Isaak Davies gets a chance next season, we need his pace. Eli King could provide a physical presence absent in Wintle and Siopis. Those two, Ashford and the correct use of Rubin could be like 4 new signings.

[Hilts]

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Russ knows best then, Because not one person commented on Colwill's performance in the match thread or lifted one of the many threads on hear about him to offer their praise. Just goes to show that us fans haven't got a clue, eh..

I like you didnt go.

My son came straight through the door and said Colwill was superb and just doesnt get why he doesnt play every week.

Ive got loads of friends who support Swansea. Every single one of them commented that they couldnt understand why he didnt start v them as he was different class when he came on.

The threads ive seen this season when weve been utter shit and its turned into Colwill bashing has been ridiculous. So yeah I think fans sometimes dont have a clue.

If Colwill did go to Southampton or a top Championship side im sure hed do really well.

Personally I think hes a real talent who looks comfortable on the ball. For someone so big he should improve his strength and aggression on the ball.

A better coach would get better out of him. I think minimum he will be a top Championship player - but of course i may know nothing as a fan.😂

[Tuerto]

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I like you didnt go.

My son came straight through the door and said Colwill was superb and just doesnt get why he doesnt play every week.

Ive got loads of friends who support Swansea. Every single one of them commented that they couldnt understand why he didnt start v them as he was different class when he came on.

The threads ive seen this season when weve been utter shit and its turned into Colwill bashing has been ridiculous. So yeah I think fans sometimes dont have a clue.

If Colwill did go to Southampton or a top Championship side im sure hed do really well.

Personally I think hes a real talent who looks comfortable on the ball. For someone so big he should improve his strength and aggression on the ball.

A better coach would get better out of him. I think minimum he will be a top Championship player - but of course i may know nothing as a fan.��

I think it's pretty simple when it comes to Colwill. He has to create a bit more and score a few more. When-If that happens then we can put the argument to bed in my opinion. I've no doubt he played well yesterday, and i reckon i know what Russ is talking about having seen Colwill play on numerous occasions. If he turns in to a consistent championship player then i'll take that, and i would have when he first came on to the scene. Plenty on hear (as usual) got carried away, got all emotional because he's Welsh, Academy etc, then did their usual thing where they dig their heels in and blame everyone else because it isn't working out as they expected. That's the problem on here, it's infantile, and we van't get a decent debate going because of all the emotive shit. Mozzer can't let Bulut go because he played futsbal once in 1989. As for Colwill, we'll see how far he can go, and good luck to him, and the other young players coming through.

[Nobody's Rep]

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Russell Martin is known for using the word brave about his players in interviews.

Cheers - I find Martin an odious tosser who has convinced himself he is the next best thing - me I think he is classless and has achieved nothing to date - on that basis I tend to avoid listening to him but yesterday was an exception 😂😂

[WJ99mobile]

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I think it's pretty simple when it comes to Colwill. He has to create a bit more and score a few more. When-If that happens then we can put the argument to bed in my opinion. I've no doubt he played well yesterday, and i reckon i know what Russ is talking about having seen Colwill play on numerous occasions. If he turns in to a consistent championship player then i'll take that, and i would have when he first came on to the scene. Plenty on hear (as usual) got carried away, got all emotional because he's Welsh, Academy etc, then did their usual thing where they dig their heels in and blame everyone else because it isn't working out as they expected. That's the problem on here, it's infantile, and we van't get a decent debate going because of all the emotive shit. Mozzer can't let Bulut go because he played futsbal once in 1989. As for Colwill, we'll see how far he can go, and good luck to him, and the other young players coming through.

Colwill has been done to death on here.

As someone said further up, he’s littered with mistakes with the occasional brilliance.

The biggest positive for Colwill is his biggest weakness. Risk taking and decision making. He’s unpredictable.

Personally I don’t think he’s a great footballer (yet) but is enjoyable to watch and I’d rather him in the team than out of it.

Now people hopefully leave him alone to mature and develop.

[Nobody's Rep]

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I like you didnt go.

My son came straight through the door and said Colwill was superb and just doesnt get why he doesnt play every week.

Ive got loads of friends who support Swansea. Every single one of them commented that they couldnt understand why he didnt start v them as he was different class when he came on.

The threads ive seen this season when weve been utter shit and its turned into Colwill bashing has been ridiculous. So yeah I think fans sometimes dont have a clue.

If Colwill did go to Southampton or a top Championship side im sure hed do really well.

Personally I think hes a real talent who looks comfortable on the ball. For someone so big he should improve his strength and aggression on the ball.

A better coach would get better out of him. I think minimum he will be a top Championship player - but of course i may know nothing as a fan.😂

I couldn't go either but my boy said he did well especially when he played 10

Felt he probably didn't enough support to tanner early on in terms of defensive duties

[Jimmy the Jock]

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I like you didnt go.

My son came straight through the door and said Colwill was superb and just doesnt get why he doesnt play every week.

Ive got loads of friends who support Swansea. Every single one of them commented that they couldnt understand why he didnt start v them as he was different class when he came on.

The threads ive seen this season when weve been utter shit and its turned into Colwill bashing has been ridiculous. So yeah I think fans sometimes dont have a clue.

If Colwill did go to Southampton or a top Championship side im sure hed do really well.

Personally I think hes a real talent who looks comfortable on the ball. For someone so big he should improve his strength and aggression on the ball.

A better coach would get better out of him. I think minimum he will be a top Championship player - but of course i may know nothing as a fan.😂

I share your lack of knowledge.
He is the one player I enjoy watching even when the team isn't doing so well.
I haven't enjoyed watching the skill of any one player since Lee Tomlin.
When he gets slagged of on here I find myself shaking my head , he has come through our youth system, there is little tolerance.
At the moment everyone is screaming for the youngsters to be played
soon as they miss place a pass and we lose they will be getting destroyed on here.

[Tuerto]

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I share your lack of knowledge.
He is the one player I enjoy watching even when the team isn't doing so well.
I haven't enjoyed watching the skill of any one player since Lee Tomlin.
When he gets slagged of on here I find myself shaking my head , he has come through our youth system, there is little tolerance.
At the moment everyone is screaming for the youngsters to be played
soon as they miss place a pass and we lose they will be getting destroyed on here.

And the last two sentences are what I mean about the emotional stuff that's used in support of Colwill, none of it that true in my opinion, but used by people nevertheless. There's not much articulation on what Colwill does well and what he needs to improve on, that's something I can't understand. It doesn't make for good debate, especially when we're all on the same side.

[bluebirds17]

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Colwill's biggest weakness at the moment is composure. There's plenty of times this season and in yesterday's game where he rushed rather than composing himself before shooting/passing etc.

I feel this down to two things:

1) he's still young and learning the game and this is something that will develop with more game time. Game time that is consistent 80-90 minutes a game rather than 15-20 minutes cameos.

2) due to not being consistently in the team he is trying to hard to do something spectacular to impress his manager.

For me to help him develop Bulut or whoever is our next manager needs to trust him as the 10.

I will say for Bulut he has helped Rubin to develop his work rate around the pitch which was an issue last season and earlier this season.

The style of football we have played will never help a creative player but yesterday showed having players around you with pace and energy and can play some football will always bring the best out of players like Colwill.

[Tuerto]

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Colwill's biggest weakness at the moment is composure. There's plenty of times this season and in yesterday's game where he rushed rather than composing himself before shooting/passing etc.

I feel this down to two things:

1) he's still young and learning the game and this is something that will develop with more game time. Game time that is consistent 80-90 minutes a game rather than 15-20 minutes cameos.

2) due to not being consistently in the team he is trying to hard to do something spectacular to impress his manager.

For me to help him develop Bulut or whoever is our next manager needs to trust him as the 10.

I will say for Bulut he has helped Rubin to develop his work rate around the pitch which was an issue last season and earlier this season.

The style of football we have played will never help a creative player but yesterday showed having players around you with pace and energy and can play some football will always bring the best out of players like Colwill.

I don't agree with all of that, (some of it i do) but good post. It's a well thought out argument which holds some water in my opinion, and you've been critical of the player as well which gives balance. My problem is the posters who think it's all one way and have this pretty unhealthy obsession with young players who come through our system (Even more so if they're Welsh) Good post