People using "Americanisms"

[B. Oddie]

I'll give an example:

"I'm looking forward to the new season of Line of Duty..."

:facepalm:

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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I'll give an example:

"I'm looking forward to the new season of Line of Duty..."

:facepalm:

Language is a moving feast and changes constantly. Grammar, nouns, verbs, phrases and meanings are all subject to change. Misspellings can become the standard version (and as to what spellings became the standard version in the first place is another story altogether). Some Americanisms (such as 'gotten') may grate with us are old English words we have since dispensed with. Grammatical rules we learned at school were often the results of academics trying to shoe-horn Latinisms on our Germanic language (which is heavily laced with vocabulary inherited from our Norman conquerors, of course). Plurals used to be expressed in different ways in different parts of the country, depending on linguistic influences in the regions concerned.
Change is the norm regarding language. Best roll with it and see it as part of the same continuum that spawned the English Language in the first place.

Consider where each of the words you just used came from: mostly German and partly French.

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Language is a moving feast and changes constantly. Grammar, nouns, verbs, phrases and meanings are all subject to change. Misspellings can become the standard version (and as to what spellings became the standard version in the first place is another story altogether). Some Americanisms (such as 'gotten') may grate with us are old English words we have since dispensed with. Grammatical rules we learned at school were often the results of academics trying to shoe-horn Latinisms on our Germanic language (which is heavily laced with vocabulary inherited from our Norman conquerors, of course). Plurals used to be expressed in different ways in different parts of the country, depending on linguistic influences in the regions concerned.
Change is the norm regarding language. Best roll with it and see it as part of the same continuum that spawned the English Language in the first place.

Consider where each of the words you just used came from: mostly German and partly French.

Well you just painted him all over the walls, I guess this thread's over :hehe:

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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Well you just painted him all over the walls, I guess this thread's over :hehe:

Apologies, I didn't mean to make anyone feel small. Language fascinates me and I got carried away :-)

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Apologies, I didn't mean to make anyone feel small. Language fascinates me and I got carried away :-)

I was only teasing, you're right in your point though. Language is constantly evolving, as grating as some new developments in language can be they're basically the modern equivalent of not saying thee and thou etc anymore

[Tuerto]

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Apologies, I didn't mean to make anyone feel small. Language fascinates me and I got carried away :-)

Accents fascinate me, although i don't have a great deal of knowledge on how and why. It fascinates me on how i can drive from the top of Thornhill and come down the other side of a big hill, no more that a mile or so, and the accent changes. Maybe it's because of that big hill!

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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assists

What the feck is all that about ?

Premier league cobblers

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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Accents fascinate me, although i don't have a great deal of knowledge on how and why. It fascinates me on how i can drive from the top of Thornhill and come down the other side of a big hill, no more that a mile or so, and the accent changes. Maybe it's because of that big hill!

I will try and avoid making this particular contribution a sermon as well :hehe: but accents and dialect are incredibly fascinating. It's only centralised power in the way of governments/regimes that declare one particular version as the standard and which is usually considered 'posh' thereafter. The diversity of language and languages is an absolute joy but I'll shut up now :-)

[Tuerto]

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assists

What the feck is all that about ?

Premier league cobblers

Yup, that's just bullshit. It's 'Setting Up'

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Yup, that's just bullshit. It's 'Setting Up'

offense

When they start using that is when I start taking the pills

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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assists

What the feck is all that about ?

Premier league cobblers

The concept had existed in ice hockey for a very long time, I believe. On the one hand I don't like it as it's alien to me (and that concept may sound familiar) but on the other hand I can understand that someone who sets up a lot of goals is recognised as being of particular value.

[Tuerto]

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I will try and avoid making this particular contribution a sermon as well :hehe: but accents and dialect are incredibly fascinating. It's only centralised power in the way of governments/regimes that declare one particular version as the standard and which is usually considered 'posh' thereafter. The diversity of language and languages is an absolute joy but I'll shut up now :-)

'Sermon' away, i might learn something :thumbup: Port Cities in the UK have some incredible dialect, Liverpool, Newcastle, Cardiff, Portsmouth etc. In land, where there is agriculture, it's less aggressive, almost sleepy. I wonder if the actual built environment forms an accent.

[Tuerto]

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'Sermon' away, i might learn something :thumbup: Port Cities in the UK have some incredible dialect, Liverpool, Newcastle, Cardiff, Portsmouth etc. In land, where there is agriculture, it's less aggressive, almost sleepy. I wonder if the actual built environment forms an accent.

Or Landscape.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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offense

When they start using that is when I start taking the pills

Late 14th century English, old fruit.

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'Sermon' away, i might learn something :thumbup: Port Cities in the UK have some incredible dialect, Liverpool, Newcastle, Cardiff, Portsmouth etc. In land, where there is agriculture, it's less aggressive, almost sleepy. I wonder if the actual built environment forms an accent.

For years so called language experts refused to accept they way Londoners speak as an accent or dialect but it is. People tend to forget too the fact that the port of London and London docks were massive for centuries with all the differing nationals and accents that brings. A couple of hundred years ago there were so many ships trying to unload in the pool that it was said you could walk from one side of the pool of London to the other from ship to ship without getting your feet wet.