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  • #91
    Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?

    Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Well it should be irrelevant but that's the point here

    Comments on Wales Online were saying go back to Turkey

    Given he was born in Germany, has lived in Germany then why would people assume he should be fecking off to Turkey?

    In this case its clearly a xenophobic slur using on his perceived nationality

    Just because a bigot gets someone's background right ....or wrong .....doesn't mean they are not a bigot
    Which was my point original "are we letting this slide", and judging by the response, some I'm really surprised at, it seems the answer is a resounding YES!

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    • #92
      Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?

      Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
      Given he was born in Germany, has lived in Germany then why would people assume he should be fecking off to Turkey?
      I'd guess it was because he came to Cardiff from Turkey, had spent all of his previous managerial career in Turkey, and his family lives in Turkey. Stuff like that.

      And guess what? According to the BBC reports, he did indeed return to Turkey after the season ended. Imagine that...

      Famara Diedhiou is Senegalese. He came to City on loan from Granada. He was terrible. So, if a City fan was to say they hoped he would go back to Spain, would that make them a racist or a bigot?

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      • #93
        Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?

        Originally posted by Garth Blue View Post
        Eh no and no.
        Thank god for that

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        • #94
          Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?

          Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
          I'd guess it was because he came to Cardiff from Turkey, had spent all of his previous managerial career in Turkey, and his family lives in Turkey. Stuff like that.

          And guess what? According to the BBC reports, he did indeed return to Turkey after the season ended. Imagine that...

          Famara Diedhiou is Senegalese. He came to City on loan from Granada. He was terrible. So, if a City fan was to say they hoped he would go back to Spain, would that make them a racist or a bigot?
          Yes if the remark was clearly racially motivated which in the case of the Wales Online comment I was commenting on most definitely was

          You asked if bulut was definitely born in Germany

          He definitely was as I pointed out to you

          You can check if you like

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          • #95
            Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?

            Originally posted by OurManFlint II View Post
            Which was my point original "are we letting this slide", and judging by the response, some I'm really surprised at, it seems the answer is a resounding YES!
            I generally agree

            And I agree its surprising

            Apart from a few lumpers

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            • #96
              Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?

              a normal thread spoilt by arguing.

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              • #97
                Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?

                Originally posted by WJ99mobile View Post
                a normal thread spoilt by arguing.
                There are 30 on the same subject already, why we needed a new one is anybody's guess and the 2nd comment had strong hints of racism. Nothing normal about it.

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                • #98
                  Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?

                  Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                  You asked if bulut was definitely born in Germany
                  No I didn't. I know he was born in Germany. But that's not the statement you made.

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                  • #99
                    Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?

                    Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                    I'd guess it was because he came to Cardiff from Turkey, had spent all of his previous managerial career in Turkey, and his family lives in Turkey. Stuff like that.

                    And guess what? According to the BBC reports, he did indeed return to Turkey after the season ended. Imagine that...

                    Famara Diedhiou is Senegalese. He came to City on loan from Granada. He was terrible. So, if a City fan was to say they hoped he would go back to Spain, would that make them a racist or a bigot?
                    You guess wrong in the post I am referring to on Wales Online

                    It was clearly a xenophobic comment and even giving the benefit of the doubt in this instance you are incorrect

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                    • Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?

                      Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                      No I didn't. I know he was born in Germany. But that's not the statement you made.
                      The statement I made was he was born in Germany

                      You said are you sure

                      He definitely was

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                      • Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?

                        Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                        You guess wrong in the post I am referring to on Wales Online

                        It was clearly a xenophobic comment and even giving the benefit of the doubt in this instance you are incorrect
                        What did it say exactly?

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                        • Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?

                          Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                          The statement I made was he was born in Germany
                          The statement you made was: "Bulut was born in Germany to Turkish parents."

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                          • Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?

                            Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                            The statement you made was: "Bulut was born in Germany to Turkish parents."
                            German Turkish parents ?

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                            • Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?

                              In my opinion people who use phrases like "Go back to (insert country) are more likely to be a bit racist or bigoted than those that don't, or wouldn't. It's a bit ignorant at best.

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                              • Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?

                                Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                                What did it say exactly?
                                It was similar to the post on here but a tad more obvious

                                It was removed after plenty of complaints

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