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Malcolm Allison was a very marmite character. I didn't like his over the top flamboyance. For me it was very satisfying to see us relegate Allison's Crystal Palace to Division 3 in the final game of 1973/74 thanks to an equaliser by Tony Villars
I remember the game at Palace when Alston scored the winner with about 10 minutes to go.
We had just beaten Hereford in front of 35000 at Ninian and Allison had said they were a bigger club.
Couldn't move for discarded Fedoras on the way out.
He was also an overrated myth! 9 English clubs, a losing record at everyone & a 27% win ratio, yet a hero to many!
He had something at the start of his coaching career and was a huge part of the success Man City enjoyed in the late 60s and early 70s, but as soon as he switched to management, his weaknesses became more apparent and it was amazing that he kept on getting high profile managerial jobs when it had been clear for a long time that he was not great in that field.
I'd seen that clash with Alan Mullery (who was a little like Allison as a personality i thought) a few months ago on You Tube when I went through a phase of watching all of the old Big Match programmes on there. I've always thought Mullery was a good player, certainly a more complete footballer than Nobby Stiles, the man he replaced in the England team, but Allsion wasn't a fan of his because he was keeping Man City's Colin Bell out of the England team at that time.
Originally posted by the other bob wilsonView Post
He had something at the start of his coaching career and was a huge part of the success Man City enjoyed in the late 60s and early 70s, but as soon as he switched to management, his weaknesses became more apparent and it was amazing that he kept on getting high profile managerial jobs when it had been clear for a long time that he was not great in that field.
I'd seen that clash with Alan Mullery (who was a little like Allison as a personality i thought) a few months ago on You Tube when I went through a phase of watching all of the old Big Match programmes on there. I've always thought Mullery was a good player, certainly a more complete footballer than Nobby Stiles, the man he replaced in the England team, but Allsion wasn't a fan of his because he was keeping Man City's Colin Bell out of the England team at that time.
Unfortunately those who gave him high profile jobs never saw past his media personality of big hats, cigars and generally being flash. Wasn’t there some publicity/controversy about him getting in the team bath with Fions Richmond ? I think he was a good coach but did not seem to learn much about management whilst in the company of the great Joe Mercer, a shrewd operator as well as a gentleman.
Your assessment of Alan Mullery is accurate, he was more of an all round player than Stiles and a better one but i don’t think he is directly comparable to the great Colin Bell. Different styles
Unfortunately those who gave him high profile jobs never saw past his media personality of big hats, cigars and generally being flash. Wasn’t there some publicity/controversy about him getting in the team bath with Fions Richmond ? I think he was a good coach but did not seem to learn much about management whilst in the company of the great Joe Mercer, a shrewd operator as well as a gentleman.
Your assessment of Alan Mullery is accurate, he was more of an all round player than Stiles and a better one but i don’t think he is directly comparable to the great Colin Bell. Different styles
Fair point, to use the old fashioned terminology, Mullery was a wing half (no 6) and Bell was an inside forward (no. 8 or 10 - Bell would be an 8 to me as he was very much box to box).
My point was more to do with Mullery being the one out of the trio of Ball, Peters and him to be dropped and Bell was the midfielder closest to breaking into the team on a permanent basis.
What a thoroughbred of a player Colin Bell was, aptly nicknamed Nijinsky. Although it could also be attributed to the great ballet dancer as well as the racehorse.
What a thoroughbred of a player Colin Bell was, aptly nicknamed Nijinsky. Although it could also be attributed to the great ballet dancer as well as the racehorse.
…….also known as the King of the Kippax.
The manager Joe Mercer who was always very understated in everything he said and did used to say “Colin Bell - he can play a bit” and could he play…..!
The manager Joe Mercer who was always very understated in everything he said and did used to say “Colin Bell - he can play a bit” and could he play…..!
I was a small kid when I espied Joe Mercer on what could be laughingly called a concourse at Ninian Park and where he was performing the role of England's caretaker manager against Wales.
I remember him being under a multi-coloured umbrella in the rain when I approached him for his autograph, his response being to tell me to 'Piss off'.
I was a small kid when I espied Joe Mercer on what could be laughingly called a concourse at Ninian Park and where he was performing the role of England's caretaker manager against Wales.
I remember him being under a multi-coloured umbrella in the rain when I approached him for his autograph, his response being to tell me to 'Piss off'.
I was a small kid when I espied Joe Mercer on what could be laughingly called a concourse at Ninian Park and where he was performing the role of England's caretaker manager against Wales.
I remember him being under a multi-coloured umbrella in the rain when I approached him for his autograph, his response being to tell me to 'Piss off'.
Lovable Joe Mercer, everyone’s favourite uncle? Surely not :hehe:
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