Nations League

[Rjk]

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The nations league is great isn't it?

To think evryone moaned about it when it first came in

[The Lone Gunman]

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The nations league is great isn't it?

To think everyone moaned about it when it first came in

It's absolute garbage.

In this day and age, international football should be kept to an absolute minimum. There is way too much of it.

International football didn't need a new European competition. It already had one.

[NYCBlue]

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It's absolute garbage.

In this day and age, international football should be kept to an absolute minimum. There is way too much of it.

International football didn't need a new European competition. It already had one.

This.

[Rjk]

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It's absolute garbage.

In this day and age, international football should be kept to an absolute minimum. There is way too much of it.

International football didn't need a new European competition. It already had one.

each to their own, I think it's great -certainly wouldn't want to go back to pointless friendlies during the international breaks - and you'll still need the international breaks as you cant expect a national side to just meet for the summer tournaments without playing other games.
It also gives the smaller teams something realistic to play for - I doubt anyone in San Marino will be complaining about it

[sneggyblubird]

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It's absolute garbage.

In this day and age, international football should be kept to an absolute minimum. There is way too much of it.

International football didn't need a new European competition. It already had one.

But miles better than the meaningless friendlies they replaced and can help with qualification to tournaments proper. They're here to stay methinks.

[The Lone Gunman]

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each to their own, I think it's great -certainly wouldn't want to go back to pointless friendlies during the international breaks - and you'll still need the international breaks as you cant expect a national side to just meet for the summer tournaments without playing other games.
It also gives the smaller teams something realistic to play for - I doubt anyone in San Marino will be complaining about it

I saw a lengthy report about that on Sky Sports. Apparently, the day after the game you'd never have known it took place. Virtually nobody in San Marino cared apart from the team.

You say: "certainly wouldn't want to go back to pointless friendlies during the international breaks" and I agree. There is no need for international breaks at all unless teams are playing in proper competitions during them. International sides should also be limited to three friendlies a season. Maximum (I'd opt for two).

You say: "you cant expect a national side to just meet for the summer tournaments without playing other games." Why not? If it was the same for everyone, then no problem.

Like every other aspect of football these days, international football is at saturation point. It's just ridiculous. Never used to be like this and there's no need for it to be like this now either. Restructure the existing competitions by all means, but don't invent stupid new ones for the sake of it.

[Jordi Culé]

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I saw a lengthy report about that on Sky Sports. Apparently, the day after the game you'd never have known it took place. Virtually nobody in San Marino cared apart from the team.

You say: "certainly wouldn't want to go back to pointless friendlies during the international breaks" and I agree. There is no need for international breaks at all unless teams are playing in proper competitions during them. International sides should also be limited to three friendlies a season. Maximum (I'd opt for two).

You say: "you cant expect a national side to just meet for the summer tournaments without playing other games." Why not? If it was the same for everyone, then no problem.

Like every other aspect of football these days, international football is at saturation point. It's just ridiculous. Never used to be like this and there's no need for it to be like this now either. Restructure the existing competitions by all means, but don't invent stupid new ones for the sake of it.

Serious question, what's your thoughts on the revamped Champions League, Europa Cup and Conference?

I'm assuming similar to the Nations League?

[TheBirchgrovePub]

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It's absolute garbage.

In this day and age, international football should be kept to an absolute minimum. There is way too much of it.

International football didn't need a new European competition. It already had one.

Nations League has been a huge success, just because you don’t like international football you can’t be silly enough to come to the conclusion that it hasn’t been a great success

[The Lone Gunman]

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Serious question, what's your thoughts on the revamped Champions League, Europa Cup and Conference?

I'm assuming similar to the Nations League?

I don't watch any of them these days. Haven't got the channels they're on and not interested enough to go to the pub to watch any of the games. I've watched a couple of finals in recent years years and that's about it.

[The Lone Gunman]

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Nations League has been a huge success, just because you don’t like international football you can’t be silly enough to come to the conclusion that it hasn’t been a great success

In what way has it been a great success?

[TheBirchgrovePub]

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In what way has it been a great success?

28k for the Wales game last week, a competitive international that saves meaningless friendlies. Promotion/Relegation and the potential of a playoff to qualify for major tournaments which has twice given Wales and many other countries a lifeline.

Additional money for both competing and success, plus added revenue from bigger crowds compared to friendlies.

Competetive games for all teams against similar ranked opposition. Look at the scenes on the pitch when San Marino won last week.

Did you watch Georgia at the euros? Promoted twice from the bottom division and now top of group B looking to get promoted again, momentum that led into them reaching the euros and then qualifying out of the group.

You might not personally like it but stupid to claim it hasn’t been a success, it’s one of the only things they’ve got right in recent years to give international football a much needed boost and make 90% of games competitive.

[The Lone Gunman]

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28k for the Wales game last week, a competitive international that saves meaningless friendlies. Promotion/Relegation and the potential of a playoff to qualify for major tournaments which has twice given Wales and many other countries a lifeline.

Additional money for both competing and success, plus added revenue from bigger crowds compared to friendlies.

Competetive games for all teams against similar ranked opposition. Look at the scenes on the pitch when San Marino won last week.

Did you watch Georgia at the euros? Promoted twice from the bottom division and now top of group B looking to get promoted again, momentum that led into them reaching the euros and then qualifying out of the group.

You might not personally like it but stupid to claim it hasn’t been a success, it’s one of the only things they’ve got right in recent years to give international football a much needed boost and make 90% of games competitive.

Fair enough, I'll bow to your far greater knowledge on all of the above, and good luck to anyone who actually enjoys it, but it's definitely not for me.

My view is there is way too much football at all professional levels: way too many club competitions, way too many international matches, way too many teams able to qualify for international finals tournaments and European club competitions, etc etc. It's all become farcical as far as I'm concerned and totally devalues the game.

Meanwhile, the FA and League Cups have become a joke because players are rested on account of the fact that they play too much football.

No, I didn't watch Georgia at the Euros. I've got no interest in them whatsoever. Or San Marino. Or TNS.

[Der Kaiser]

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Fair enough, I'll bow to your far greater knowledge on all of the above, and good luck to anyone who actually enjoys it, but it's definitely not for me.

My view is there is way too much football at all professional levels: way too many club competitions, way too many international matches, way too many teams able to qualify for international finals tournaments and European club competitions, etc etc. It's all become farcical as far as I'm concerned and totally devalues the game.

Meanwhile, the FA and League Cups have become a joke because players are rested on account of the fact that they play too much football.

No, I didn't watch Georgia at the Euros. I've got no interest in them whatsoever. Or San Marino. Or TNS.

I think both of you are right. The sport is so over saturated it's becoming a bit boring, it's like Eastenders at this point. Never ending and very little is actually that memorable.

That said if they are intent on expanding the sport to the point it may as well occupy a 24/7 channel, then the least they could do is make meaningful decisions making the additional games competitive - which the nations league has done in fairness.

[Jordi Culé]

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I don't watch any of them these days. Haven't got the channels they're on and not interested enough to go to the pub to watch any of the games. I've watched a couple of finals in recent years years and that's about it.

That's fair enough.

I go to the Nations League games because I'm shanghaied into by my lad. It's the same for City games mind!

I wouldn't think of putting a game on to watch on the TV though unless it is perhaps Wales.

The tournament itself isn't the worse idea UEFA have come up with and it beats meaningless friendlies that they'd insist upon.

[Citizen's Nephew]

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I fell out of love with international football especially with the Qatar WC build-up and watching Wales under Page. But the Turkey match last Friday with 28K at the CSS and front foot football made me wish we had more internationals and bigger sides to play. After the last few years of watching Cardiff I'd forgotten what the stadium could be like and the buzz of a game and the noise. We need that at City games. There were 10K fewer fans at the 'borough game. It was grim. Something has to be done.