Bacuna

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Re: Bacuna

Bacuna has been at Cardiff for two and a half seasons but it’s still unclear what his best position is or what his strengths are supposed to be.

Running around. In terms of stats, he's our least creative central midfielder, an average passer, an average tackler and not very accurate in front of goal.

He has never been worth the money we paid for him.

[MOZZER2]

Re: Bacuna

Bacuna has been at Cardiff for two and a half seasons but it’s still unclear what his best position is or what his strengths are supposed to be. That’s a player Warnock bought for £4 million we’re talking about.

wasn't it on a 5 year deal to ?

[jon1959]

Re: Bacuna

wasn't it on a 5 year deal to ?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47071577

Four and a half year contract from January 2019 - for a reported £4m fee.

[MOZZER2]

Re: Bacuna

yeah i thought it was something like that and my colleagues at the time all aston villa fans told me he was pony too jon1959

i thought it was a bit over the top at the time signing on a long term contract to me the worse of warnocks signings

think time has proven right

[cardiff55]

Re: Bacuna

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47071577

Four and a half year contract from January 2019 - for a reported £4m fee.

Ah well, the good news is 2 and a half years have gone by, so only two to go!! Perhaps Norwich will take hime and Vaulks for £12m??!!!!

[Enoch Mort]

Re: Bacuna

Ah well, the good news is 2 and a half years have gone by, so only two to go!! Perhaps Norwich will take hime and Vaulks for £12m??!!!!

We gave him a contract that was so disproportionately good we will be stuck with him for the duration of a deal that no other club in their right mind would have done. Thanks Colin Wanker, the downside of your period of management will hang about like chlamydia.

[2b2bdoo]

Re: Bacuna

Because we only had three other players in that position (Arter, Gunnarsson, and Ralls).

Yeah but the point was why not just keep Demour if he's hardly being used then clearly he wasn't needed much. Just seemed an expensive transfer for the sake of it.

[Gnojek]

Re: Bacuna

Yeah but the point was why not just keep Demour if he's hardly being used then clearly he wasn't needed much. Just seemed an expensive transfer for the sake of it.

The signings of Damour and Warnock paint an accurate picture of Warnock's transfer dealings.

I really liked Damour and thought he was an excellent addition to the squad. Neat and tidy with a good pass, who also racked up a lot of yards. The fact he was unknown, came from an unheralded second-tier French team and arrived on a free transfer made it all the better. I remember Warnock saying the recommendation came from the same source that had suggested he sign Drogba in his younger years. Warnock was (and no doubt still is) great at things like this.

However, Bacuna is the polar opposite. In horse-racing terms, he's "exposed". You know what you're going to get and he's unlikely to make a real splash. Add in the fee and the contract length and it's not good business. Fair enough, he's still in-and-around the first XI every week and I don't dislike him, just that he's a bit too much "6/10" for me.

[Sloop_Jon_Bee]

Re: Bacuna

Perhaps one to move on especially if his reported high wages see true, we have a few great lads in the U23 squad bring them on now Mick , please .

have to agree with you; move him on.
Spedger

[Sloop_Jon_Bee]

Re: Bacuna

We gave him a contract that was so disproportionately good we will be stuck with him for the duration of a deal that no other club in their right mind would have done. Thanks Colin Wanker, the downside of your period of management will hang about like chlamydia.

[dml1954]

Re: Bacuna

We gave him a contract that was so disproportionately good we will be stuck with him for the duration of a deal that no other club in their right mind would have done. Thanks Colin Wanker, the downside of your period of management will hang about like chlamydia.

Perhaps you could enlighten us as to exactly how much the transfer fee was and exactly how much Bacuna is earning, so that we can all make an informed decision as to whether it was a reasonable bit of business or not. If you don't have this information then it is just guesswork and supposition on your behalf, hardly grounds for insulting our ex Manager in the way you have.

[Enoch Mort]

Re: Bacuna

Perhaps you could enlighten us as to exactly how much the transfer fee was and exactly how much Bacuna is earning, so that we can all make an informed decision as to whether it was a reasonable bit of business or not. If you don't have this information then it is just guesswork and supposition on your behalf, hardly grounds for insulting our ex Manager in the way you have.

I think his transfer fee was £3.1m which, if you looked at the Reading messageboards at the time was regarded by their fans as good business. The fee is not an issue for me but I think the 4 and a half year contract was too long and if you research his salary online £27k per week comes upon a number of sites and has also been quoted on here in the past as being on a par with Morrison and second only to Smithies. When playing midfield he has never looked value for money to me. In terms of insulting our ex manager, as far as I am concerned this is one of many reasons to do so.

[Gnojek]

Re: Bacuna

The signings of Damour and Warnock paint an accurate picture of Warnock's transfer dealings.

I really liked Damour and thought he was an excellent addition to the squad. Neat and tidy with a good pass, who also racked up a lot of yards. The fact he was unknown, came from an unheralded second-tier French team and arrived on a free transfer made it all the better. I remember Warnock saying the recommendation came from the same source that had suggested he sign Drogba in his younger years. Warnock was (and no doubt still is) great at things like this.

However, Bacuna is the polar opposite. In horse-racing terms, he's "exposed". You know what you're going to get and he's unlikely to make a real splash. Add in the fee and the contract length and it's not good business. Fair enough, he's still in-and-around the first XI every week and I don't dislike him, just that he's a bit too much "6/10" for me.

Damour and Bacuna......

[City123]

Re: Bacuna

I think his transfer fee was £3.1m which, if you looked at the Reading messageboards at the time was regarded by their fans as good business. The fee is not an issue for me but I think the 4 and a half year contract was too long and if you research his salary online £27k per week comes upon a number of sites and has also been quoted on here in the past as being on a par with Morrison and second only to Smithies. When playing midfield he has never looked value for money to me. In terms of insulting our ex manager, as far as I am concerned this is one of many reasons to do so.

Bacuna's with Unique Sports Management isn't he? I'm sure a 4 and a half year deal for a middling Championship player while we were in the Prem had nothing to do with him being with Warnock's son's agency

[dml1954]

Re: Bacuna

I think his transfer fee was £3.1m which, if you looked at the Reading messageboards at the time was regarded by their fans as good business. The fee is not an issue for me but I think the 4 and a half year contract was too long and if you research his salary online £27k per week comes upon a number of sites and has also been quoted on here in the past as being on a par with Morrison and second only to Smithies. When playing midfield he has never looked value for money to me. In terms of insulting our ex manager, as far as I am concerned this is one of many reasons to do so.

So you don't really know what the fee was or how much he earns. The length of contract means very little nowadays anyway. I actually agree with you in terms of Bacunas position in the team. I wouldn't have him in any team that I picked because to me he is lazy and gets caught out of position too often. That isn't down to his lack of ability, its his attitude on the pitch. That is something that you only find out when he is at the club unfortunately. Every player signed is a gamble to some extent. Some come off, others don't. As to your attitude to Warnock, you don't have to like him but to engage in snide remarks and direct insults is childish in the extreme and very disrespectful to a man who picked the club up by its bootstraps, connected the club to the fans for the first time in years and took us to the Premier League on a shoestring budget within 18 months. Something that I will never forget anyway.