Colwill, how good can he be?

[NinianKnight]

Re: Colwill, how good can he be?

Previous managers' comments about Colwill remind me of WBA's manager (Can't recall who it was) about Ernie when he was there - "He can score, but doesn't do much off the ball" :facepalm:

Robson wasn't the only manager to make those comments about Earnie. I used to get so fustrated when I heard them. Earnie was a goal scorer end of. Lennie Lawernce was the best manager Earnie ever had. There seemed to be an undocumented agreement between them that Earnie's job was to score 25 goals per season anything else was a bonus.

If Robson or any of Earnie's other managers wanted a target man then why didn't they sign a forward who is good at link play/holding the ball up etc?

If you wanted goals Earnie was your man, just leave him to do his stuff

[Eric Cartman]

Re: Colwill, how good can he be?

Brilliant question. I am going out on a complete limb and one which has all the potential to blow up in my face.

Rubin Colwill is going to the very top. I don't know exactly which top club he will end up at but it will be one of the top 6 probably Spurs but eventually a super club like Real Madrid, Barcelona etc

I think that's probably a big stretch but love to see some positivity around one of our players. If he had pace he would have been punted on by a big club by now and we would have been talking about what might have been. If he plays like that frequently until the end of the season, it's unlikely he will be here next year.

[severncity]

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I think that's probably a big stretch but love to see some positivity around one of our players. If he had pace he would have been punted on by a big club by now and we would have been talking about what might have been. If he plays like that frequently until the end of the season, it's unlikely he will be here next year.

If he continues to play as he did against Bristol City and Plymouth Argyle he will almost certainly be the subject of a big bid by a struggling Premier League team in January. He is a game-changer and could be a great impact-player

[llan bluebird]

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I believe with modern-day "over the top" analysis of the game, Fifa or championship manager games and every coach having to do the same badges we use this mythical perfection model for every player.

We spend far too much time talking about what players can't do. That is all fine and dandy in the super elite clubs, backed by states and large corporations but on planet Earth its about finding a winning team.

At the championship level, Rubin can give you something that most teams can't handle as long as he is not burdened with his primary instruction of tracking a runner, he is an offensive player and we have to build a defensive system around the other 9. It's not a free pass, he won a fair few duels yesterday but you need to accept that not his game. A mobile center forward like Robinson allows Rubin to drop into the 9 slot, playing a lummox won't.

Malky hid Whitt's weaknesses by putting 4 physical anaerobic monsters in front of him and that was the deal as long as he controlled the game, which he did until the run-in. Because at championship level Whitts was technically at a different level, if he had the physicality he would have been a top premier league player and only visited Cardiff for cup finals. The same can be said of Rubin but in a more advanced position.

Wales are not playing through the thirds, they are more concerned with getting the ball back higher up the field, its a different system and one that won't suit Rubins's lack of mobility compared to Wilson and even Rambo (whilst he is on the pitch)

Its good to see a manager not wed to a monster center-forward, and i am hoping that Issac Davies can finally show us what he is all about.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Wales wise I don't care at present , for city I think he could be a very influential player in a top 8 championship side

I don't think he's going to be subject to a big money deal because , as yet, he's already 22 and still not consistent enough

His goal yesterday and the pass for Robertson strike were first class though

He also played a great inside ball for tanners Bristol City goal

He needs cover though from the likes of Robertson and Turnbull , if these 2 show they can dominate the middle

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Colwill, how good can he be?

I believe with modern-day "over the top" analysis of the game, Fifa or championship manager games and every coach having to do the same badges we use this mythical perfection model for every player.

We spend far too much time talking about what players can't do. That is all fine and dandy in the super elite clubs, backed by states and large corporations but on planet Earth its about finding a winning team.

At the championship level, Rubin can give you something that most teams can't handle as long as he is not burdened with his primary instruction of tracking a runner, he is an offensive player and we have to build a defensive system around the other 9. It's not a free pass, he won a fair few duels yesterday but you need to accept that not his game. A mobile center forward like Robinson allows Rubin to drop into the 9 slot, playing a lummox won't.

Malky hid Whitt's weaknesses by putting 4 physical anaerobic monsters in front of him and that was the deal as long as he controlled the game, which he did until the run-in. Because at championship level Whitts was technically at a different level, if he had the physicality he would have been a top premier league player and only visited Cardiff for cup finals. The same can be said of Rubin but in a more advanced position.

Wales are not playing through the thirds, they are more concerned with getting the ball back higher up the field, its a different system and one that won't suit Rubins's lack of mobility compared to Wilson and even Rambo (whilst he is on the pitch)

Its good to see a manager not wed to a monster center-forward, and i am hoping that Issac Davies can finally show us what he is all about.

Witts was a very physical unit , very powerful but never really needed to use it

He had so much class on the ball

[Lord Worcester]

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I was gutted when Earnie left for WBA. Even more so when Robson spouted all his nonsense. This desire to focus on what players cannot do rather than what they can do has been going on for ages - and really annoys me. I just want to enjoy watching Rubin play without all the caveats of ‘run more, work harder, track back, etc etc’. He is a very gifted footballer imho. Yesterday, for the first time since, I felt like I used to watching witts in his pomp - bar the odd Tomlin masterclass.

[delmbox]

Re: Colwill, how good can he be?

Brilliant question. I am going out on a complete limb and one which has all the potential to blow up in my face.

Rubin Colwill is going to the very top. I don't know exactly which top club he will end up at but it will be one of the top 6 probably Spurs but eventually a super club like Real Madrid, Barcelona etc

I'm rooting for the kid but behave yourself :hehe:

[Dorcus]

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If he continues to play as he did against Bristol City and Plymouth Argyle he will almost certainly be the subject of a big bid by a struggling Premier League team in January. He is a game-changer and could be a great impact-player

Southampton??? 🤔

[Dorcus]

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I wouldn't replace him with Ramsey when he's fit for 2 games in March 2025.

Me neither; I think Colwill should be above him every time now.

[Rjk]

Re: Colwill, how good can he be?

it wasn't long ago on here people were saying he should have a season at league 1, I'm sure i can even recall someone writing that they thought Joel was the better brother as well.

[insider]

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Let's be honest we've put with quite a lot of shite following the City the last few years.
I want someone in our side to get me out of my seat and Rubin has always had that ability.
I was sick of managers telling us what he couldn't do just let him do what we all know he is capable of.
Has football become so Saline that kids with his talent are being stiffled out of the game for possession stats?

[The Lone Gunman]

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it wasn't long ago on here people were saying he should have a season at league 1, I'm sure i can even recall someone writing that they thought Joel was the better brother as well.

I was one of those suggesting Colwill should go out on loan, but that was only because Bulut obviously wasn’t going to play him regularly and he needs to be playing at this stage of his career. Bulut is sacked and bingo, Colwill is suddenly in the team.

[J R Hartley]

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it wasn't long ago on here people were saying he should have a season at league 1, I'm sure i can even recall someone writing that they thought Joel was the better brother as well.

Idiots who don’t know their football from their rugby

[2b2bdoo]

Re: Colwill, how good can he be?

it wasn't long ago on here people were saying he should have a season at league 1, I'm sure i can even recall someone writing that they thought Joel was the better brother as well.

At the start of last season I said I think he could have benefited on a loan until that January, still think that would have benefited him hugely rather than being in and out of the team under Bulut. It’s clear a run of games under Riza has helped him, hopefully the more he plays the better he will get.