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  • Bulut.

    You won't get many bigger Erol Bulut critics than me and I'll never change my mind that his sacking was overdue. However, as we approch the halfway point in this season, the fact has to be faced that we're finding life much tougher this time around than we did with Bulut in charge last season and it seems very unlikely that we're going to exceed last year's twelfth placed finish and our points tally of sixty two.

    So, why is that Bulut was able to take us through a season where relegation was never really a serious issue? Was he a better manager than people like me are prepared to acknowledge? I suppose the first thing to do when trying to answer questions like that is to look at players no longer at the club who haven't been adequately replaced. To be honest, only three come to mind for me, Mark McGuinness to an extent, an in form Ryan Wintle is a bit of a miss and definitely Karlan Grant.

    Second, although we're still quite high in the table for set piece goals, there has been a big drop off in the number we're scoring.

    A third reason why we were safely mid table through 23/24 for me is luck. The stats show there was a freakish eloment to our high, by recent standards, finishing position and, off the top of my head, I can think of Southampton at home and Sunbderland, Preston, Sheffield Wednesday, Watford and Coventry away where we had luck on our side in picking up the three points.

    However, the fact that five of those games I mention were played away from.home points to something that cannot just be dismiissed as luck - especially when you contrast our away record this season with last time around. Those fifteen points were a big reason. why we were never in much danger and I feel they offer some evidence of where we have not replaced Bulut effectively.

    At the back end of last season, I heard a podcasrt discussion somewhere about why Cardiff were so high in the table when they consistently played football of a standard that should place them in the bottom third? The answer they came up with was that we had a way of staying in games when the going got tough - so, was what I tend to write off as good fortune a bit more than that?

    Nine games in and we're still looking for our first away win, yet I'd argue that we've played pretty well even at Burnley and Hull. we had our rough patches at Swansea, Bristol and West Brom, but did okay and we've played well at Coventry. I honestly don't see much of a difference in our performance level away from home compared to last year and yet results are clearly worse. Would we have conceded within two minutes of going 1-0 up, as we've done on our last two away games, under Bulut? Well, without checking it, I can't think of a single instance of us doing so.

    I've written all of the above while being convinced that we'd be bottom with quite a few less points now if Bulut was till manager, but I don't think last season was just a case of making a good start and then hanging on, we still had something that would see us through away games that we don't have now.

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    We had a better squad and were miles better at set pieces at both ends of the pitch.

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    • #3
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      Lose McGuinness put in Chambers. Massive difference.

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      • #4
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        The biggest single factor was luck. He was very, very lucky to get so many results in games where his side was a distinct second best. It was a freak season in that respect. The table made Bulut look a lot better than he actually was.

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        • #5
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          Originally posted by Hilts View Post
          Lose McGuinness put in Chambers. Massive difference.

          He hasn’t actually excelled at Luton, has he

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          • #6
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            Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
            The biggest single factor was luck. He was very, very lucky to get so many results in games where his side was a distinct second best. It was a freak season in that respect. The table made Bulut look a lot better than he actually was.

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            • #7
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              Originally posted by BLUETIT View Post
              He hasn’t actually excelled at Luton, has he
              I can only comment on what I've seen. McGuinness for us was vastly superior to Chambers and McGuinness wasn't perfect.

              I have no idea what he's doing now as apart from our game I haven't seen Luton.

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              • #8
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                Originally posted by BLUETIT View Post
                He hasn’t actually excelled at Luton, has he
                No, I may be wrong but to my mind we started playing better and picked up more points after Nat Phillips came in January and McGuiness didn't play for several months.

                Everyone was desperate for Laland to get fit after a decent showing in a couple of but didn't set the world alight when since he came in for Chambers.

                We have been blessed with some decent load loan players in recent years to make the team seem better than it was. This year we have El Ghazi and the woeful Kanga, and that for me is the biggest reason we haven't picked up more points.

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                • #9
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                  I can see Bulut's cheerleader-in-chief NCB chuckling away, but the situation wasn't funny. The delusion that Bulut was doing a decent job led to fans calling for him to stay and the board giving him a new contract.

                  And here we are as a result of that lunacy.

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                  • #10
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                    Luck, good fortune - only 3 teams had a worse goal difference than us last season yet we finished 12th. If that form continued into this season - and the latter part of last - you could possibly argue a case for Bulut, but it didn't, and the awful form up to his sacking was IMHO a truer reflection of his impact on the club. Losing McGuiness was also a big factor. Neither Goutas or Chambers are 'organisers' like McGuiness was. They don't shout, point, etc. and we've become sloppy and ill-disciplined at the back. I think McGuiness contributed to keeping the back line tight for 90+ minutes..

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                    • #11
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                      Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                      I can see Bulut's cheerleader-in-chief NCB chuckling away, but the situation wasn't funny. The delusion that Bulut was doing a decent job led to fans calling for him to stay and the board giving him a new contract.

                      And here we are as a result of that lunacy.
                      It was all luck

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                      • #12
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                        Originally posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
                        It was all luck
                        A lot of it was. Anyone who understands football could see that and the stats were just incredible.

                        Remember all those games after October 2023 in which Bulut's boys were genuinely better than the opposition?

                        No, nor me.

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                        • #13
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                          Yeah, a decent start to the season until he tried to put his stamp on the team, then some lucky wins and a lot of being outplayed.

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                          • #14
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                            Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                            A lot of it was. Anyone who understands football could see that and the stats were just incredible.

                            Remember all those games after October 2023 in which Bulut's boys were genuinely better than the opposition?

                            No, nor me.
                            Yes all luck

                            Pep last year so lucky, this year so unlucky

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                            • #15
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                              Set pieces.

                              If that was down to bulut I'd bring him back as coach.

                              Not just scoring from them either, which we were bloody brilliant at, but we defended them far better.

                              All adds up.

                              The league probably doesn't have the run away leaders this season but it feels like everyone else is on average a touch stronger.

                              We put in excellent performances against Plymouth and Pompey and on the day looked far better yet at this stage of the season we can't get any distance ahead of them.

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