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  • #31
    Re: Team for hull game?

    Originally posted by Father Dougal View Post
    Like we said a point would be more than Sunderland shef united or Millwall took from hull when hull visited.

    Hull are flying away from home. Even at full strength a point would be great but with this squad a point would be fantastic.
    It's a shame we can't defend, I think both sides would be very happy to shake hands on a 0-0 and edge closer away from the bottom 3. We're going to have to score, though. I'd gamble on Robinson, the cup game is a free hit, Burnley haven't conceded in 12, we've kept 1 clean sheet in 20 so were, so we've got 10 days until the next game that we can get anything from.

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    • #32
      Re: Team for hull game?

      Are there any free agents we could bring in to help sort out the defence.

      Also we need a coach to organise the defence. Apparently it's Ramasut's role so I'd get rid of him as he's the common factor regarding our dreadful defence these last few years.

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      • #33
        Re: Team for hull game?

        Originally posted by PontBlue View Post
        Are there any free agents we could bring in to help sort out the defence.

        Also we need a coach to organise the defence. Apparently it's Ramasut's role so I'd get rid of him as he's the common factor regarding our dreadful defence these last few years.
        Why is ramasut in a job? We've had so many changes yet he's still here? How?

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        • #34
          Re: Team for hull game?

          Originally posted by PontBlue View Post
          Are there any free agents we could bring in to help sort out the defence.

          Also we need a coach to organise the defence. Apparently it's Ramasut's role so I'd get rid of him as he's the common factor regarding our dreadful defence these last few years.
          I refer you to Richard Shaw, who some were crediting with out last upturn in results, whenever that was, i can't remember. Not seen anything about him since......

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          • #35
            Re: Team for hull game?

            Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
            I refer you to Richard Shaw, who some were crediting with out last upturn in results, whenever that was, i can't remember. Not seen anything about him since......
            Just to add, i am neither crediting Shaw with our upturn (at the time) or blaming him for our downturn (most weeks) i don't think it works like that.

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            • #36
              Re: Team for hull game?

              Originally posted by PontBlue View Post
              Are there any free agents we could bring in to help sort out the defence.

              Also we need a coach to organise the defence. Apparently it's Ramasut's role so I'd get rid of him as he's the common factor regarding our dreadful defence these last few years.
              Our best back 4 is a winger, a left back, a centre back and a centre mid. I'm not sure what any coach could do with that? The players we've got to pick from in defence (even with everyone fit) just aren't up to the task.

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              • #37
                Re: Team for hull game?

                Originally posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
                Our best back 4 is a winger, a left back, a centre back and a centre mid. I'm not sure what any coach could do with that? The players we've got to pick from in defence (even with everyone fit) just aren't up to the task.
                I'm not absolving Ramusat or Riza of responsibility, and they're not without blame but you can't polish a turd

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                • #38
                  Re: Team for hull game?

                  Originally posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
                  I'm not absolving Ramusat or Riza of responsibility, and they're not without blame but you can't polish a turd
                  Just seen a poll doing the rounds on Twitter asking if we have a good squad/good manager, with over 70% saying we have a good squad! What the f*ck have they been watching!?!

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                  • #39
                    Re: Team for hull game?

                    Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
                    Just to add, i am neither crediting Shaw with our upturn (at the time) or blaming him for our downturn (most weeks) i don't think it works like that.
                    A few weeks back Riza gave a very informative press conference where he detailed back room staff roles and responsibilities. I was surprised that neither Purse or Shaw had responsibility for defence

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                    • #40
                      Re: Team for hull game?

                      Originally posted by Father Dougal View Post
                      Why is ramasut in a job? We've had so many changes yet he's still here? How?
                      Why not? I always think one familiar face in the background consistently is always good, particularly when we change manger so often. Some stability is good…plus he brings a bit of celebrity with him, decent guy too:thumbup:

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                      • #41
                        Re: Team for hull game?

                        Originally posted by City123 View Post
                        Just seen a poll doing the rounds on Twitter asking if we have a good squad/good manager, with over 70% saying we have a good squad! What the f*ck have they been watching!?!
                        People have deluded themselves into thinking players like Willock are underperforming and are actually good because they score a good goal once a season.

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                        • #42
                          Re: Team for hull game?

                          Originally posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
                          People have deluded themselves into thinking players like Willock are underperforming and are actually good because they score a good goal once a season.
                          Willock proved he can do well and score goals at this level while at QPR. Problem is he also had periods where he was ineffective and there were allegedly some attitude problems. Bulut and Riza haven't managed to get much out him so far, but his past record indicates that there's a decent player in there somewhere.

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                          • #43
                            Re: Team for hull game?

                            Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                            Willock proved he can do well and score goals at this level while at QPR. Problem is he also had periods where he was ineffective and there were allegedly some attitude problems. Bulut and Riza haven't managed to get much out him so far, but his past record indicates that there's a decent player in there somewhere.
                            Cifuentes is a good manager at this level, and he got 4 goals and 4 assists out of Willock last season. I don't think Willock fits into any system we've used, he's not quick enough to be a winger and doesn't work hard enough to be central. This is also my issue with "play Robinson as a 10", you're basically playing 2 strikers as midfielders can literally walk past them. Still, we've got 2 years left for Willock to change my mind, as nobody is going to buy him!

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                            • #44
                              Re: Team for hull game?

                              Originally posted by PontBlue View Post
                              Are there any free agents we could bring in to help sort out the defence.

                              Also we need a coach to organise the defence. Apparently it's Ramasut's role so I'd get rid of him as he's the common factor regarding our dreadful defence these last few years.
                              Looking at who's about the only realistic ones would be.....

                              Nathan Ferguson - still only 23 - can play anywhere across the back. Started at West Brom then went to Palace 4 years ago for £4m where it didn't work out. Hasn't played since July though.

                              or

                              Ayo Obileye who's a london born 30yo journeyman centre back. Last played in Jan out in China. Youth career with Chelsea and Sheff Wed. Most of his football was played in Scotland where he spent 3 seasons from 2021 in the Prem for Livingston

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                              • #45
                                Re: Team for hull game?

                                Originally posted by PhyllisStant View Post
                                Looking at who's about the only realistic ones would be.....

                                Nathan Ferguson - still only 23 - can play anywhere across the back. Started at West Brom then went to Palace 4 years ago for £4m where it didn't work out. Hasn't played since July though.

                                or

                                Ayo Obileye who's a london born 30yo journeyman centre back. Last played in Jan out in China. Youth career with Chelsea and Sheff Wed. Most of his football was played in Scotland where he spent 3 seasons from 2021 in the Prem for Livingston
                                Nathan Ferguson has been almost permanently injured since he joined Palace. He played 1 game in 4 seasons.

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