Warnock

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: Warnock

Nine years ago 100% yes, he would have these players organised and keeping clean sheets in two weeks, now he's too old.

We need the closest we can get to a Warnock in his heyday, and this week otherwise we have a 50% chance of relegation, we need to reduce those odds dramatically.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Re: Warnock

Nine years ago 100% yes, he would have these players organised and keeping clean sheets in two weeks

:hehe: Is this absolute truth or just your opinion?

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Re: Warnock

otherwise we have a 50% chance of relegation

According to who?

[poc]

Re: Warnock

Until the end of season yes or no?

Yes for me.

:hehe:

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: Warnock

:hehe: Is this absolute truth or just your opinion?

He came in nine years ago, you clown and got us a promotion the following season, so it was the absolute truth.

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: Warnock

According to who?

Me.

The bookies have us fourth from bottom, but we looked terrible yesterday and Derby are picking up.

https://m.skybet.com/football/sky-bet-championship/sky-bet-championship-relegation-2425/33325187

Make yourself useful and do a bottom team's run in post, so we can see where the next points are commig from.

[KingOfSiamIAm]

Re: Warnock

No. I'd rather go down than watch us go long ball. In any case, we haven't got the players he needs - tall, imposing centre backs, height all over the pitch and leaders on the pitch.

If long ball means clearing your lines when it is necessary to do so, then short term, it’s our Neil for me.

Yesterday when Luton had a free kick, I noticed one of our coaches had assumed that modern stance at the edge of the technical area, staring at the proceedings. The free kick routine was almost the same as the one where we conceded late-on against Sunderland. We were fortunate to get away with this one and the coach sat down.

A bit later, another dead ball kick from Luton, again the guy was standing there, we were almost undone again, but were FORTUNATE to get away with it. This time however, as the coach went back to his seat, his arms were held out wide, indicating a look of exasperation.

Maybe the players are following these new fangled coaching methods to the letter, instead of being ready to positively effect what is actually happening in real time.

We are now in crisis management time, things need to be kept simple and it doesn’t matter who the manager is. Omer Riza has had enough time to adjudge the character of those players who are ready for a fight. They need to play. There are under ten games left and in my opinion, we need round pegs in round holes. Whether that is Riza, our Neil or Uncle Tom Cobberly and all.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Re: Warnock

He came in nine years ago, you clown and got us a promotion the following season, so it was the absolute truth.

You said he'd some in, organise the defence and have us keeping clean sheets in 2 weeks. Are you still suggesting this is the absolute truth before I rinse you with stats?

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: Warnock

You said he'd some in, organise the defence and have us keeping clean sheets in 2 weeks. Are you still suggesting this is the absolute truth before I rinse you with stats?

With this squad a younger Warnock would, yes, it's organisation and accountability and knowing who your best back four are.

[A Quiet Monkfish]

Re: Warnock

No. I'd rather go down than watch us go long ball. In any case, we haven't got the players he needs - tall, imposing centre backs, height all over the pitch and leaders on the pitch.

Firstly, Warnock didn't play 'long ball'. Secondly, anything is batter than watching what I witnessed last night. And thirdly, you'd actually rather the Club be relegated to League 1 than stay up ?

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Re: Warnock

Firstly, Warnock didn't play 'long ball'. Secondly, anything is batter than watching what I witnessed last night. And thirdly, you'd actually rather the Club be relegated to League 1 than stay up ?

1. What would you define it as?

2. Not some of the hoofball shit I saw under Warnock.

3. As I've said, I'm not bothered.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Re: Warnock

With this squad a younger Warnock would, yes, it's organisation and accountability and knowing who your best back four are.

Here we go....

Looking over 16 stints Warnock has had as manager of clubs since his first job in the Football League with Notts County, 5 times has his side opened with a clean sheet, although 2 of those occasions were in league cup ties. On 7 occasions did Warnock's side manage a clean sheet in their first two games, so on 9 occasions Warnock's side failed to get a clean sheet in their first 2 games.

I hear you mention a "younger Warnock". Well, in his stints from Notts County to Oldham, those 5 sides took 21 games to get a clean sheet. Huddersfield managed one in a league cup tie against lower division Scarborough but failed in their opening 9 league games to get a clean sheet. Oldham similarly managed a clean sheet in their second game, then failed to get another for 11 games.

His best spell like this was between his appointments at Palace and Rotherham, where he started with a clean sheet on 5 out of those 7 seasons (I didn't check up on his very brief second stint at QPR). Since then, it took Cardiff 7 games to get a clean sheet, Middlesbrough 6, Huddersfield 3 and Aberdeen 7 games.

My reason for doing this is your recent insistance on everything you say being a fact. You made a totally spurious claim that Warnock would come in and have us keeping clean sheets within 2 weeks, as if that would be guaranteed. It was total bollocks. He hasn't done that all that often in his career, certainly not 9 years ago. I was then called a clown when you tried to avoid your initial comment by saying he'd won us promotion - something absolutely true, but nothing to do with your clean sheets in 2 weeks comment. You further backtracked by suggesting a younger Warnock would have. Again, that's a load of bollocks.

I regularly pass comments on all sorts of things on here, lots of them may well be wrong, but I at least say they're my opinion, or it's what I believe to be true or accurate etc. I do my best not to pass off opinion as fact. You keep coming out with wild claims that wilt under a hint of scrutiny, but each time you keep arguing you are still right.

So, shall we have another go - are you standing by your claim that under which ever variety of Warnock, we'd be keeping clean sheets in 2 weeks (like that's some sort of guarantee), when there's no real suggestion of that in the stats?

[Splott-light...]

Re: Warnock

I don't know why anybody trys it with Eric :hehe:

anyway, i'm of the belief that Mr Tan and his board of useless chair-people could do with a little humbling, as long as we keep hanging in there season after season they will keep patting each other on the back and no improvements will be made, my advice to the board:

1) get rid of the f***ing red squiggle on the badge immediately

2) hold your hands up and accept that a catalogue of poor decision making has broken this club, we were the daddy in this league

3) recruit a proper manager

:thumbup:

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Re: Warnock

anyway, i'm of the belief that Mr Tan and his board of useless chair-people could do with a little humbling, as long as we keep hanging in there season after season they will keep patting each other on the back and no improvements will be made, my advice to the board:

1) get rid of the f***ing red squiggle on the badge immediately

2) hold your hands up and accept that a catalogue of poor decision making has broken this club, we were the daddy in this league

3) recruit a proper manager

:thumbup:

VOTE SPLOTT-LIGHT! VOTE SPLOTT-LIGHT!

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Re: Warnock

With this squad a younger Warnock would, yes, it's organisation and accountability and knowing who your best back four are.

We played Rino Goutas Daland COD for about 10 straight games when everyone was fit. It did not go well. Daland got hooked 3 times in 8 games for being horrifically bad. This squad is shocking. We have been here for 3 of 4 seasons, we don't have a good squad.