Are you bothered?

[TheBirchgrovePub]

About last night?
About Saturday?
About relegation?
About next season?

The worst part for me about it all is the total apathy. Not just when we lose but when we win these days as well. Losing feels inevitable, it has done in the past as well but would enjoy a rare moment of joy when we won games but this feels different. It feels like we’re just delaying the inevitable when we win a game.

If we needed a point at Norwich on the last day to stay up can you say you’d be delirious if we got it? I can’t. It would feel like we just have to wait another 12 months to seal our fate.

Hard not to think my views are shared looking at the size of the crowd once again last night, and the actions of this who were there. Even the booing was half arsed.

Apathy kills football clubs, hard to see where we go from here as it is so deep rooted in the club now there doesn’t seem to be a quick fix

[DJ-Q]

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I was saying the same thing last night, we have turned for less than this in the past. It’s like we’ve had the passion drained from us. I was at Oxford on Boxing Day and said then “we deserve to go down after the non performance” I stand by it

[City123]

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Felt like up until last night there was an almost toxic positivity amongst some fans in trying to be supportive, saying so many players were tope end Championship etc. Think that may stop now.

[Joe Gillis]

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From Andy Campbell's glorious winner to this.
It seems we're headed back where we started and the club (not the fans) deserve it

[Don Corleone]

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I really don’t want to watch Cardiff in league 1 again so certainly would celebrate staying up this season but my real passion for City died when we switched to red

The Warnock promotion season was good - and in blue, I liked the character he put into that team but it still didn’t have the same “feel” as the journey we went on going up the leagues pre Tan but maybe that’s just me getting older

Maybe it could be reset with an ownership that “cared” about the club and a young ambitious manager with a plan ( like Bellamy has with Wales after Page) that gives something for the crowd to get behind but certainly in the stadium last night there was total apathy all around me

[Lord Worcester]

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I really don’t want to watch Cardiff in league 1 again so certainly would celebrate staying up this season but my real passion for City died when we switched to red

The Warnock promotion season was good - and in blue, I liked the character he put into that team but it still didn’t have the same “feel” as the journey we went on going up the leagues pre Tan but maybe that’s just me getting older

Maybe it could be reset with an ownership that “cared” about the club and a young ambitious manager with a plan ( like Bellamy has with Wales after Page) that gives something for the crowd to get behind but certainly in the stadium last night there was total apathy all around me

And around me. Even the goal celebration felt a bit lame - I know mine was. And I can’t really explain why. Likewise I really don’t want to watch us again in league 1. Depressing.

[JamesWales]

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I'll be honest, and I don't think many are willing to admit but I think there is a very high level of apathy at the moment and many are pretty relaxed about the relegation. It doesn't feel like a relegation battle does it? The Canton stand isn't trying to suck the ball in the net? There is no rallying cry to fans.

Everyone wants success but they also want to enjoy the football and that's not happening. I think a lot of people can see the benefits of dumping a few players, even visiting a few new grounds and just having a big old reset.

This feels like the dying days of an era that's being going on since 2001, with the club being on the up in terms of the football, the players the stadium, the cup finals, all of it. That's over now. We are a stumbling decaying club with a ground barely a third full sometimes.

No one wants to go down but equally I don't think anyone wants the last few years to continue.

[Crisp White Lines]

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It is often the fans who can lift a team in situations where they can see the players really need some help.

At City, the fans have been served up desperately poor performances/teams for far too long. They don't have it in them to lift the team any more. Many, many fans no longer care.

The 3 amigos are to blame for every poor club decision that has led to this.

[Armitage Shanks]

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Before the game I don't think I was so disinterested.... I never go to the shops before the game. But I was in next at 7.15 endeavouring to push my mind to go the game

[Taffy Blue in Berkshire]

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as a lifelong city fan i do care and feel very sad at what the club has now become. what with the egg and our demise it's been a tough winter for Welsh sport with no grounds for optimism. we have a great fan base, very good ground (albeit soulless), great training facilities but then a total mess. look around the country and others are in a mess as well. if the owner and his cronies don't change we'll go into freefall and I feel really sorry for the fans living locally who go to the CCS. I've only seen us a few times in the flesh this year and it's not been nice.

[Grangenders]

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Given that we are (currently) one step below the Premier League, it feels like we are more likely to end up in the National League or liquidation than we are to ever returning to the top flight.

Given how little we hear from Tan, surely he’ll be even more bored of us in League 1?

[Don Corleone]

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And around me. Even the goal celebration felt a bit lame - I know mine was. And I can’t really explain why. Likewise I really don’t want to watch us again in league 1. Depressing.

I know what you mean about the goal celebration, it seemed a little half hearted. I think it was because we were playing poorly and it was inevitable we would then concede.

Compare the atmosphere to Portsmouth on Sunday where the whole crowd were behind the team. They had Regan Poole and Marlon Pack at centre half but kept a clean sheet against Leeds, goes to show what a bit of passion and character can achieve, traits I haven’t seen in this city team all season

[North Cardiff Blue]

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We are £100 Million in debt and with financial fair play if we go down we are shagged.

[JamesWales]

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Before the game I don't think I was so disinterested.... I never go to the shops before the game. But I was in next at 7.15 endeavouring to push my mind to go the game

What did you buy mate?

[superfeathers]

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I can totally understand the positivity around the potential of going down to reset, with new owners, new direction, some ambition.

I don’t think it will be the reality though. I think Tan will stay, with just more slow and bad decisions, even less money, less players, worse attendances, maybe not worse managers because we already employ managers who won’t get employed anywhere else in the top 3 leagues.

More of the same, just worse. Are we going to spend five years there being apathetic about going down to league two because there’ll be a chance to reset?

Also for anyone who doesn’t remember, it’s a hard league to get out of

The only positive I can think of, is getting home quicker on a Saturday