Could Ramsey's absence be beneficial?

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: Could Ramsey's absence be beneficial?

Of the 8 games, 50% of them have been against teams currently sitting in the top 8. One of those was a narrow loss against Burnley away. The other 50% of games we drew three.
I don't think it's a fair comparison to be fair.
But given how injury prone he is now, I'd rather get a side together that can fight in every game than keep tinkering. I said in a previous post that I hope he retires.

I hadn't read right through, but thought this might be the case :thumbup:

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: Could Ramsey's absence be beneficial?

The narrow Burnley defeat was at home - Ramsey played the full 90 minutes in the 5-0 collapse away at Burnley in August and was responsible for surrendering possession for their fourth and fifth goals.

I agree it may not be an entirely fair comparison, but nevertheless I firmly believe Ramsey has contributed little of note regardless of who he's played against this season. I'm hoping his absence will mean less tinkering by Riza to accommodate him, and perhaps a bit more from Colwill if he's moved back to a central midfield position.

Equally, it may make no difference at all. But, like you, I hope Ramsey retires now. The situation has become silly and a bit embarrassing.

What you say makes sense, and although hard to prove, I think you could have something there, especially with less options and complications for Riza in the run in.

[splott parker]

Re: Could Ramsey's absence be beneficial?

Undoubtedly he used to be and his brain may well still be, he isn't a cut above physically though, not anymore sadly. Time waits for no man.

It doesn’t but the few times he’s played, he’s found space without over exerting himself, received the ball from a usually harassed team mate, but invariably has to hang on to it a touch too long due to the lack of intelligent movement by others. Over the last few games he’s made himself available, not by sprinting into space. He just finds room calmly while the others plod around seemingly sticking like glue to their opponents.

As I stated, his absence may be beneficial due to the ‘wavelength’ differences.

[Trigger]

Re: Could Ramsey's absence be beneficial?

It doesn’t but the few times he’s played, he’s found space without over exerting himself, received the ball from a usually harassed team mate, but invariably has to hang on to it a touch too long due to the lack of intelligent movement by others. Over the last few games he’s made himself available, not by sprinting into space. He just finds room calmly while the others plod around seemingly sticking like glue to their opponents.

As I stated, his absence may be beneficial due to the ‘wavelength’ differences.

Maybe you're right. I'm just thinking he has been caught in possession quite a few times but that's likely me just noticing it more because it's him and I expect him to be better than our other players technically.
Our movement is terrible, has been for a long time. I've been surprised we don't give away more goals than we have by trying to play out as with our movement it just feels there is very little benefit from it for us.

[The Lone Gunman]

Re: Could Ramsey's absence be beneficial?

Who played in midfield during those wins?

Based on the staring line-ups in the BBC reports, the central midfielders were as follows:

Millwall (1-0): Ralls, Colwill, Robertson

Plymouth (5-0): Robertson, Colwill, Turnbull

Portsmouth (2-0): Robertson, Colwill, Turnbull

Norwich (2-1): Siopis, Colwill, Turnbull

Watford (2-1): Chambers, Robertson, Siopis

Swansea (3-0): Chambers, Robertson, Ralls

Derby (2-1): Chambers, Robertson, Ralls

Hull (1-0): Chambers, Robinson, Mannsverk

I don't think the BBC reports are entirely accurate in terms of positions. For instance, they reckon that for the Norwich game Riza was fielding a bizarre 4-2-2-2 formation. But the above are my best guesses based on the graphics in the reports.

[The Lone Gunman]

Re: Could Ramsey's absence be beneficial?

It’s horses for courses, Ramsey is Ascot, the others are Ely Racecourse.

It's a pity he spends most of the season in the stables.

[PontBlue]

Re: Could Ramsey's absence be beneficial?

Thanks, so Robertson must start along with any two from Chambers, Turnbull, Ralls and Colwill

[splott parker]

Re: Could Ramsey's absence be beneficial?

It's a pity he spends most of the season in the stables.

While the others should be residing in the knacker’s yard!

[splott parker]

Re: Could Ramsey's absence be beneficial?

Maybe you're right. I'm just thinking he has been caught in possession quite a few times but that's likely me just noticing it more because it's him and I expect him to be better than our other players technically.
Our movement is terrible, has been for a long time. I've been surprised we don't give away more goals than we have by trying to play out as with our movement it just feels there is very little benefit from it for us.

You’re quite correct about the movement of our lot. Throw ins are a prime example, just as well chuck it to one of theirs, quicken the process.

[The Lone Gunman]

Re: Could Ramsey's absence be beneficial?

While the others should be residing in the knacker’s yard!

In fairness to Ramsey, he always looks well-groomed.

:thumbup:

[TheBirchgrovePub]

Re: Could Ramsey's absence be beneficial?

Think this is just cherry picking stats to suit an agenda tbh.

He opened up the Bristol City defence for the equaliser in his first league game back after a lay off, was really good against Plymouth in his first league start since his lay off then was nothing special in 90 minutes combined against Burnley and Hull. That automatically puts him above most of our midfielders.

Ramsey hasn't looked off the pace to me at all bar the obvious taking time to get up to speed after a 5 month lay off. He'll be a big miss when you look at the alternatives.

[Rock_Flock_of_Five]

Re: Could Ramsey's absence be beneficial?

While the others should be residing in the knacker’s yard!

Ramsey doesn't jockey for the ball like he used to.

[splott parker]

Re: Could Ramsey's absence be beneficial?

Ramsey doesn't jockey for the ball like he used to.

Doesn’t look like he’ll be getting the bit between his teeth any time soon, if at all, either.

[The Lone Gunman]

Re: Could Ramsey's absence be beneficial?

Think this is just cherry picking stats to suit an agenda tbh.

He opened up the Bristol City defence for the equaliser in his first league game back after a lay off, was really good against Plymouth in his first league start since his lay off then was nothing special in 90 minutes combined against Burnley and Hull.

He didn't play against Hull.

Agenda? Yes, that's right, I have an anti-Aaron Ramsey agenda.

For ****'s sake, this board is hard work at times...

[TheBirchgrovePub]

Re: Could Ramsey's absence be beneficial?

He didn't play against Hull.

Agenda? Yes, that's right, I have an anti-Aaron Ramsey agenda.

For ****'s sake, this board is hard work at times...

Sorry, meant Burnley and Luton combined.

Agenda the wrong word maybe but feels like cherry picking a few stats to suit an opinion.

Not sure how anyone can watch games and feel Ramsey is a problem with the alternatives...