Tan's attitude is very poor

[Taffy Blue in Berkshire]

He might be an extremely wealthy person who owns the club and has put a lot of money in but right now surely he should show some visible public sense of caring and stewardship or go?

Just leaving things as they are and letting the club sink as we are doing is completely irresponsible and he is sticking 2 fingers up to the club and the fans.

Make no mistake, we are going down and getting back again will be very very difficult.

Many of us can remember happy times and tough times but frankly the Tan years have been in a different space in terms of being just horrible.

I watched the Wrexham game on tv yesterday and really felt envious of their situation.

Why is it so?

[Pearcey3]

Re: Tan's attitude is very poor

Be careful what you wish for. When you have an owner like Dai Yongge then you know what a bad owner looks like.

[2b2bdoo]

Re: Tan's attitude is very poor

Be careful what you wish for. When you have an owner like Dai Yongge then you know what a bad owner looks like.

The grass is always greener. Tan has massively flaws but certainly backs the club financially even if some of the money is wasted/ can be debated.

We had Scam Hammam for years, best years of me supporting the club but it was also built on fake news, lies and deception.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Re: Tan's attitude is very poor

Be careful what you wish for. When you have an owner like Dai Yongge then you know what a bad owner looks like.

Vincent Tan's family don't like football, and don't understand why he invests so much time and money into it. I suspect we'll soon find out due to Tan's appalling mismanagement of us.

[splott parker]

Re: Tan's attitude is very poor

The slow revenge for the return to blue!!

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Re: Tan's attitude is very poor

The slow revenge for the return to blue!!

We'll never know of course but I wonder what would have happened had the fanbase united and told him where to go in 2012

[goats]

Re: Tan's attitude is very poor

The grass is always greener. Tan has massively flaws but certainly backs the club financially even if some of the money is wasted/ can be debated.

We had Scam Hammam for years, best years of me supporting the club but it was also built on fake news, lies and deception.

Tan needs to pay to get someone decent to run the club, and a proper manager, probably save him millions that he wastes every year, he can’t see it though? He has no vision….

[2b2bdoo]

Re: Tan's attitude is very poor

Tan needs to pay to get someone decent to run the club, and a proper manager, probably save him millions that he wastes every year, he can’t see it though? He has no vision….

Totally agree.

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: Tan's attitude is very poor

Tan needs to pay to get someone decent to run the club, and a proper manager, probably save him millions that he wastes every year, he can’t see it though? He has no vision….

Investing in a top manager isn't just about winning, it's about saving money. Good signings + success on the pitch = huge financial benefits that easily outweigh a higher salary. The manager is the most crucial investment a club can make.

[Trigger]

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Investing in a top manager isn't just about winning, it's about saving money. Good signings + success on the pitch = huge financial benefits that easily outweigh a higher salary. The manager is the most crucial investment a club can make.

And yet for a long long time the club, or Tan, have treated it like an inconvenience. It still baffles me, I just don't understand it.

[Rjk]

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I don't believe his approach with managers is anything to do with saving money on the salary.

if there was a proven manager who could guarantee us promotion then I have no doubt that Tan would be happy to pay for it. unfortunately they don't exist.

proven managers are sacked all the time, the average length of a managerial job in the league is about 18 months I think, most of them experienced.

Often managers who have been effective suddenly one day aren't, even at the same club, so we can't be in the situation where everything revolves around the manager.

[TheBirchgrovePub]

Re: Tan's attitude is very poor

Be careful what you wish for. When you have an owner like Dai Yongge then you know what a bad owner looks like.

This doesn't make Vincent Tan any better of an owner.

Like saying you have no right to complain as you're on the verge of the play offs in League One compared to the likes of Bury, Macclesfield etc who have all gone out of business.

This "careful what you wish for" nonsense is what has got us into this mess. The **** should've been forced out the club years ago

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: Tan's attitude is very poor

I don't believe his approach with managers is anything to do with saving money on the salary.

if there was a proven manager who could guarantee us promotion then I have no doubt that Tan would be happy to pay for it. unfortunately they don't exist.

proven managers are sacked all the time, the average length of a managerial job in the league is about 18 months I think, most of them experienced.

Often managers who have been effective suddenly one day aren't, even at the same club, so we can't be in the situation where everything revolves around the manager.

You are possibly right it could be more stupidity than money, but of course you stand a better chance if you appoint an actual Manager not a coach, Hudson. Morison, Rizla, everyone knew they were going to be shit and McCarthy. TLG has listed where they all are, there were so many Managers looking for work this season and he picks Rizla? :facepalm:

The only time he got it right was with Warnock, we all knew what he was capable of, and he came and exceeded most expectations at that time.

He might have to start looking for a League One specialist promotion winning Manager.

[Rjk]

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You are possibly right it could be more stupidity than money, but of course you stand a better chance if you appoint an actual Manager not a coach, Hudson. Morison, Rizla, everyone knew they were going to be shit and McCarthy. TLG has listed where they all are, there were so many Managers looking for work this season and he picks Rizla? :facepalm:

The only time he got it right was with Warnock, we all knew what he was capable of, and he came and exceeded most expectations at that time.

He might have to start looking for a League One specialist promotion winning Manager.

I think it's mostly because of Warnock that he's changed his approach with managers.
there's an argument that our total wasting of the premier league money and parachute payments under Warnock is a bigger failure than it would be if we were relegated under Riza.

Doesn't feel that way for the fans, but from a business point of view it was far more damaging

[WJ99mobile]

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The Tan Out protests showed some proportion of the fans don't want him there, and when he is there gets abused.

We can't even get Cardiff based fans with season tickets to attend, do you blame him for not being there?