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    Walsall, Port Vale .
    Smaller crowds, no Guarantee to return first time to the championship. It's depressing

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    How much did Brum spend?

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      Originally posted by kendoddsdadsdogsdead View Post
      How much did Brum spend?
      25m

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        Originally posted by Armitage Shanks View Post
        Walsall, Port Vale . Smaller crowds, no Guarantee to return first time to the championship. It's depressing
        Bumbling around at the bottom of the Championship while playing tedious football against a raft of poor teams is equally depressing.

        As things stand, City are aspiring to be as ‘good’ as the likes of Preston, QPR and Blackburn while playing the same teams every season in front of rapidly diminishing crowds. Truth be told it’s become very boring.

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          Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
          Bumbling around at the bottom of the Championship while playing tedious football against a raft of poor teams is equally depressing.

          As things stand, City are aspiring to be as ‘good’ as the likes of Preston, QPR and Blackburn while playing the same teams every season in front of rapidly diminishing crowds. Truth be told it’s become very boring.
          Maybe familiarity breeds content for some but we had 20000 yesterday. The novelty of playing Lge 1 regulars in front of 9000 will soon wear off.

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            Originally posted by Dave Blue View Post
            Maybe familiarity breeds content for some but we had 20000 yesterday. The novelty of playing Lge 1 regulars in front of 9000 will soon wear off.
            :hehe:

            Love it. I'm giving you the benefit of any doubt on this one Dave :thumbup:

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              Originally posted by Dave Blue View Post
              Maybe familiarity breeds content for some but we had 20000 yesterday. The novelty of playing Lge 1 regulars in front of 9000 will soon wear off.
              Depends on how we do. If we're among the playoffs, there's every chance we'd get bigger crowds than we have now. The majority of clubs who go down and are challenging for promotion the season afterwards see an increase in crowds. Relegation from the Premier League has the opposite effect, where crowds drop, often dramatically, but that's the pull of the PL from the Championship. It isn't the same between Championship and L1 at all. In some ways, The Championship has more in common with L1 than the Premier League.

              The PL is what everyone wants to see. The Championship is a poor relation. There isn't a great deal more interest in the Championship across the country as there is in L1. It's not the holy grail for L1 teams as some seem to think.

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                Re: FA cup 1st round, Auto glass trophy

                Originally posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
                25m

                Not forgetting wages etc.. probably more £30m+

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                  We are far from relegated, so I ask this purely out of curiosity..👀..but what are the rules on financial fair play? Don't they change in that division or something? I don't follow such things that closely but I gather it's benefitted Birmingham?

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                    We are far from relegated, so I ask this purely out of curiosity..👀..but what are the rules on financial fair play? Don't they change in that division or something? I don't follow such things that closely but I gather it's benefitted Birmingham?f

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                      Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                      We are far from relegated, so I ask this purely out of curiosity..��..but what are the rules on financial fair play? Don't they change in that division or something? I don't follow such things that closely but I gather it's benefitted Birmingham?f
                      Philip Jenkins talked about this in the recent FAB meeting?

                      "Championship clubs must adhere to Profit and Sustainability (P & S) rules whist clubs in League One follow the Salary Cost Management Protocol (SCMP)....."

                      And that SCMP is less restrictive on spending - which is why Birmingham were able to pay so much on transfers and salaries without getting into trouble with the EFL.

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                        Originally posted by Dave Blue View Post
                        Maybe familiarity breeds content for some but we had 20000 yesterday.
                        Did we? The crowd was declared as 20,638, but there definitely wasn’t that many of us there. Not even close.

                        9,000 is a curious figure to settle on for League One. How did you reach it?

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                          Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
                          Philip Jenkins talked about this in the recent FAB meeting?

                          "Championship clubs must adhere to Profit and Sustainability (P & S) rules whist clubs in League One follow the Salary Cost Management Protocol (SCMP)....."

                          And that SCMP is less restrictive on spending - which is why Birmingham were able to pay so much on transfers and salaries without getting into trouble with the EFL.
                          Cheers Jon. Doesn't impact us really but one consequence of the current rules, in the premier League at least has been a big ramp up in prices, as clubs justify it's needed for the FFP rules.

                          Sounds like there's a bit more freedom in League One anyway.

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                            Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                            Did we? The crowd was declared as 20,638, but there definitely wasn’t that many of us there. Not even close.

                            9,000 is a curious figure to settle on for League One. How did you reach it?
                            In the scenario we went down, I don't actually think crowds will drop off much from where they are. I would imagine that season and match tickets would stay the same which would understandably rankle some, but would probably be offset by (hopefully) winning more games and boosting interest that way.

                            Anyway, still every chance of staying up, though I must admit I think it's now more than 50% likely we go down and I haven't thought that all season

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                              Re: FA cup 1st round, Auto glass trophy

                              Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
                              Philip Jenkins talked about this in the recent FAB meeting?

                              "Championship clubs must adhere to Profit and Sustainability (P & S) rules whist clubs in League One follow the Salary Cost Management Protocol (SCMP)....."

                              And that SCMP is less restrictive on spending - which is why Birmingham were able to pay so much on transfers and salaries without getting into trouble with the EFL.
                              So hypothetically there is an outside chance that Tan is happy for us to go down, then he gets to spend a boat load on improving the squad which he couldn't in the championship and push for premier league the season after (if we went straight back up)?


                              As I said on another post yesterday, any straw to clutch onto will do at this point. :hehe:

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