So...if we somehow win against WBA...

[Divine Wright]

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Nothing is guaranteed with any of the clubs at the bottom.

If we can't beat Oxford or Stoke at home, I fail to see how we are going to beat WBA.

No guarantees , but it looks extremely unlikely that we'll ick up wins in our last two games.

Doesn't matter what the rest do.

[delmbox]

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7/1 to stay up with SkyBet.

Get your money on it if you're brave enough.

:-)

I actually checked that earlier and thought there's no way I'm putting more than a tenner on it and it's not really worth it for £70

[the other bob wilson]

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The problem with all of this if we do this and they do that stuff is that from very rarely doing our bit, we've now just stopped doing it. I was pretty confident that we could win our last two games, but now that West Brom and Norwich have sacked their managers, I'm not expecting us to do so (West Brom still have a very slim chance of making the Play Offs as well).

[BLUETIT]

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The problem with all of this if we do this and they do that stuff is that from very rarely doing our bit, we've now just stopped doing it. I was pretty confident that we could win our last two games, but now that West Brom and Norwich have sacked their managers, I'm not expecting us to do so (West Brom still have a very slim chance of making the Play Offs as well).

With Coventry playing early, they’ll know by KO time, if they still got a chance

[A Quiet Monkfish]

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With Coventry playing early, they’ll know by KO time, if they still got a chance

If Coventry get a point WBA can't reach play offs.

[Father Dougal]

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With Coventry playing early, they’ll know by KO time, if they still got a chance

And likewise that game is huge for us.

[The Lone Gunman]

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If Coventry get a point WBA can't reach play offs.

I think it's irrelevant. West Brom's players will already know they can't realistically reach the play-offs, especially as Middlesbrough play Coventry on the final day.

I'm more concerned by the fact that they're obviously a better side than they've shown recently. With their manager gone and a play-off place a pipedream, there in no real pressure on them on Saturday.

Anything can happen of course, but with the likes of Adam Armstrong, Karlan Grant, Daryl Dike, Grady Diangana, Jed Wallace and Jonathan Swift available to them, a relaxed West Brom are likely to have plenty of attacking threat against our fragile defence.

[fugsyphil]

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Stoke have thrown in the towel after beating us

They have only played two matches since beating us and they have won one of those

[City123]

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I think it's irrelevant. West Brom's players will already know they can't realistically reach the play-offs, especially as Middlesbrough play Coventry on the final day.

I'm more concerned by the fact that they're obviously a better side than they've shown recently. With their manager gone and a play-off place a pipedream, there in no real pressure on them on Saturday.

Anything can happen of course, but with the likes of Adam Armstrong, Karlan Grant, Daryl Dike, Grady Diangana, Jed Wallace and Jonathan Swift available to them, a relaxed West Brom are likely to have plenty of attacking threat against our fragile defence.

That list feels like a who's who of "Too good for the Championship, not good enough for the Premier League"

[The Lone Gunman]

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That list feels like a who's who of "Too good for the Championship, not good enough for the Premier League"

That's similar to what I've been saying about West Brom all season - they have a squad of decent players by Championship standards, but none of them would be good enough at the next level. And that's kind of where we're at in the Championship this season. Very few players at very few clubs appear to have the quality required to play at a higher level. There are usually a reasonable number of players at the teams who are in and around the top six who you think have the potential to make the step up, but this season? Not so many.

[splott parker]

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The Forest tactic seems to be working, at least this season. Overspend on Premier standard players, get a points deduction for the overspending but the said players have been good enough to absorb the deduction and you stay up. Bit of a gamble but underspending or going into the Premier League with minor tweaking to your Championship squad is a recipe for immediate relegation.
What a strange situation football is in.

[Rjk]

Re: So...if we somehow win against WBA...

The Forest tactic seems to be working, at least this season. Overspend on Premier standard players, get a points deduction for the overspending but the said players have been good enough to absorb the deduction and you stay up. Bit of a gamble but underspending or going into the Premier League with minor tweaking to your Championship squad is a recipe for immediate relegation.
What a strange situation football is in.

yeah it's a strange situation, the gap between the premier League and championship is increasing all the time, I think in a couple of years it'll be defacto a closed shop.

lower level premier league clubs are financially outspending some traditional European giants these days. the whole system should be overhauled for the good of the sport.

[Dorcus]

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yeah it's a strange situation, the gap between the premier League and championship is increasing all the time, I think in a couple of years it'll be defacto a closed shop.

lower level premier league clubs are financially outspending some traditional European giants these days. the whole system should be overhauled for the good of the sport.

Totally agree 👍

[Dorcus]

Re: So...if we somehow win against WBA...

The Forest tactic seems to be working, at least this season. Overspend on Premier standard players, get a points deduction for the overspending but the said players have been good enough to absorb the deduction and you stay up. Bit of a gamble but underspending or going into the Premier League with minor tweaking to your Championship squad is a recipe for immediate relegation.
What a strange situation football is in.

Therein lay the main problem with our two failed sojourns in the Premier. Though the second one also called for a Leeds' approach of replacing the manager upon promotion.

[The Lone Gunman]

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yeah it's a strange situation, the gap between the premier League and championship is increasing all the time, I think in a couple of years it'll be defacto a closed shop.

A former Cardiff City director told me back in June 2012 that he and the rest of the board believed the Premier League would effectively become a closed shop within a couple of years. He reckoned that if Cardiff, or any other Championship club for that matter, was unable to secure promotion to the top flight by 2014 at the latest, then they never would as the increase in parachute payments would ensure that anyone who got relegated from the Premier League would be certain to go straight back up.

This was one of his and his fellow directors' justifications for accepting Vincent Tan's rebrand.

I have no doubt the individual concerned believed what he was saying, but it was, of course, bollocks.