The Transfer Rumour Thread

[PontBlue]

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That just means they need to have been registered with a club in England or Wales for three years before they reach a certain age. We would have very few non home grown players in our squad.

[PontBlue]

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Even Robertson who is an Aussie would be considered home grown due to his time spent at man city

[the other bob wilson]

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Can't find anything about this season, but I found this about last season.

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/what-are-the-efl-squad-rules-for-202425-loanee-limits-home-grown-players-and-how-many-subs-are-allowed

The definition of u21 then was "any player born on or after January 1 2004", so presumably that's Jan 1 2005 now. That would mean neither of them can be counted as u21.

Okay then, let’s assume that Ashford and Joel Colwill are over 21 for the purposes of these rules. That makes a total of 22, but then three of them are keepers, so it seems to me that we could sign three players today and not be breaking the rules.

[Undercoverinwurzelland]

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Can't find anything about this season, but I found this about last season.

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/what-are-the-efl-squad-rules-for-202425-loanee-limits-home-grown-players-and-how-many-subs-are-allowed

The definition of u21 then was "any player born on or after January 1 2004", so presumably that's Jan 1 2005 now. That would mean neither of them can be counted as u21.

Can't find anything about this season, but I found this about last season.

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/what-are-the-efl-squad-rules-for-202425-loanee-limits-home-grown-players-and-how-many-subs-are-allowed

The definition of u21 then was "any player born on or after January 1 2004", so presumably that's Jan 1 2005 now. That would mean neither of them can be counted as u21.

Here are the rules for this season, from the EFL Handbook. It is as thought:

44.9 Squad Lists
44.9.1 Clubs shall be permitted to name up to a maximum number of Players in their Squad List based on the following provisions:
...
(b) in respect of League One and Two Clubs 22 Players of which a minimum of 8 must be a Home Grown Player.

44.9.2 The following Players do not need to be included in the Squad List to be eligible to play in League matches:
...
(b) in respect of League One Clubs and League Two Clubs:
(i) any Under 21 Players; and
(ii) goalkeepers.

Definitions
...
For Season 2025/26 an Under 21 Player is someone born on or after 1 January 2005.

https://images.gc.eflservices.co.uk/6a32d710-5b0b-11f0-ad0f-97502a343283.pdf

[Undercoverinwurzelland]

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Okay then, let’s assume that Ashford and Joel Colwill are over 21 for the purposes of these rules. That makes a total of 22, but then three of them are keepers, so it seems to me that we could sign three players today and not be breaking the rules.

I think you're right.

[the other bob wilson]

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I think you're right.

Thanks for that research you put in :thumbup:

[the other bob wilson]

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oh another fly in the ointment

think we are required to have 8 home grown players in the 22 ?

I reckon at least ten of those in that first team squad page from the club site would be considered home grown.

[Michael Morris]

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Looking at this

https://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/squad/594

I make it twenty senior players with three keepers and Tsunoda and Willock rumoured to be leaving soon.

I suppose it depends on when a player qualifies as an under 21 - Joel Colwill turns 21 early in the new season, as does Cian Ashford.

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Steve Borley was involved in a few exchanges last night over squad size but has since deleted all his tweets.

[Undercoverinwurzelland]

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Steve Borley was involved in a few exchanges last night over squad size but has since deleted all his tweets.

Did he say something about us having a full squad and having to sell before we bring anyone in?

[Michael Morris]

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Did he say something about us having a full squad and having to sell before we bring anyone in?

I believe so. Suggesting more players had to go but when he was corrected on squad numbers he stopped posting and deleted the tweets/replies

[Undercoverinwurzelland]

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I believe so. Suggesting more players had to go but when he was corrected on squad numbers he stopped posting and deleted the tweets/replies

Odd, and a bit of a concern.

[PontBlue]

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I came to the same conclusion. Was it ignorance of the rules or an attempt to cover up cost cutting and was found out

[the other bob wilson]

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I believe so. Suggesting more players had to go but when he was corrected on squad numbers he stopped posting and deleted the tweets/replies

Think he said we had to sell two :facepalm:

I’ve got a lot of respect for Steve Borley after what he did for the club in the late nineties, but it was so typically Tan’s Cardiff City that the first communication fans get from the club in weeks turns out to be wrong.

[the other bob wilson]

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I came to the same conclusion. Was it ignorance of the rules or an attempt to cover up cost cutting and was found out

Well, if you wanted to believe that we were skint and Tan was pulling the plug, there’s plenty of evidence to suggest that this summer - I don’t think that’s the case though.

[PhyllisStant]

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Odd, and a bit of a concern.

Just shows we have ZERO basic common sense football knowledge on the board.

As someone who works in a complex technical field I have to regularly explain to non-technical executives why things take so long and why we need x,y, and z. It's challenging for me... but it must be an absolute nightmare for City managers when faced with the most fundamental lack of football knowledge from the people holding all the power at the club.