Awoniyi

[Forest Green Bluebird]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football...s/cn0g8qyjywjo

Is this the worst consequence of this stupid rule to date?

Elanga was so far offside that assistant referee Sian Massey-Ellis should have used common sense to flag for offside immediately.

I have seen common sense used in many matches in the Premier League, European and international matches since the rule change came into effect.

Wishing Awoniyi a speedy recovery.

Rule change 2020:

"Delaying the flag for offside

This is new for the 2020/21 Premier League. When an immediate goalscoring opportunity is likely to occur, the assistant referee will keep their flag down if they think there is an offside until the passage of play is completed.

Once a goal is scored or the chance is gone, the assistant will raise the flag to indicate the initial offence.

If a goal is scored, the VAR will review the offside call. This weekend, incidents of a goal being scored and the assistant raising their flag occurred twice. The referee does not need to go to the Referee Review Area (RRA) as the decision is factual."

[A Quiet Monkfish]

Re: Awoniyi

Awoniya crashing into the goalpost has nothing to do with whether a flag was raised or not.

[Forest Green Bluebird]

Re: Awoniyi

Awoniya crashing into the goalpost has nothing to do with whether a flag was raised or not.

Good grief !

If the move had been stopped before Elanga was allowed to cross the ball then neither player would have collided with goal post.

If the move had been stopped then I doubt Awoniyi would have deliberately crashed into the post!

[splott parker]

Re: Awoniyi

Awoniya crashing into the goalpost has nothing to do with whether a flag was raised or not.

You obviously haven’t seen the incident. The offside was obvious from just over the half way line

[Trigger]

Re: Awoniyi

Good grief !

If the move had been stopped before Elanga was allowed to cross the ball then neither player would have collided with goal post.

If the move had been stopped then I doubt Awoniyi would have deliberately crashed into the post!

No, but if the flags raised the match is completely different, maybe someone else goes into the post a few minutes later.

Thing is you can say to the assistants to have common sense but each persons level of common sense is very different.

I'd do away with var altogether but if we have it then I think the offside flagging rule they have is probably the right one.

[The Bloop]

Re: Awoniyi

Sian Massey did her job as she's been instructed to do. There simply isn't the time for her to make such a judgement call, and neither is it her job to do so.

[Forest Green Bluebird]

Re: Awoniyi

No, but if the flags raised the match is completely different, maybe someone else goes into the post a few minutes later.

Thing is you can say to the assistants to have common sense but each persons level of common sense is very different.

I'd do away with var altogether but if we have it then I think the offside flagging rule they have is probably the right one.

Yes, anyone can collide with a post or get badly injured in a tackle, but this event was completely avoidable if common sense had been applied.

https://wwos.nine.com.au/videos/foot...0q0hmw9rsq4ivb

[lardy]

Re: Awoniyi

Sian Massey did her job as she's been instructed to do. There simply isn't the time for her to make such a judgement call, and neither is it her job to do so.

Agree, she doesn't make the rules. She just does her best to enforce them, follow them, whatever is the right word.

[Steve the Tea]

Re: Awoniyi

Sian Massey did her job as she's been instructed to do. There simply isn't the time for her to make such a judgement call, and neither is it her job to do so.

Don't officials make judgement calls all the time?

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[A Quiet Monkfish]

Re: Awoniyi

You obviously haven’t seen the incident. The offside was obvious from just over the half way line

If he was onside he still would have collided with the goalpost.

[The Bloop]

Re: Awoniyi

Don't officials make judgement calls all the time?

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Yes, but not a judgement call on whether a player may or may not clatter into a post 40 yards away.
When SuperKev clattered into her years ago, she did her job in monitoring the defensive line rather than straying from that because of something possibly going on in the corner of her eye.

[LA Bluebird]

Re: Awoniyi

I’m not so sure the rules were followed, it has a clause that if it’s a clear offside or the ball is on the wing to flag it, it was one of the clearest offsides in real time you will ever see. There was a 0.0% chance of that ever being allowed had the ball gone in.

If that’s not something the linesperson is going to call, then we might as well say there is no point of having someone run up and down the line anymore in games with VAR. Just put a ref in each half with the eye in the sky acting as the third.

[The Bloop]

Re: Awoniyi

I’m not so sure the rules were followed, it has a clause that if it’s a clear offside or the ball is on the wing to flag it, it was one of the clearest offsides in real time you will ever see. There was a 0.0% chance of that ever being allowed had the ball gone in.

If that’s not something the linesperson is going to call, then we might as well say there is no point of having someone run up and down the line anymore in games with VAR. Just put a ref in each half with the eye in the sky acting as the third.

I thought the rule was that if the passage of play would result in a goal scoring opportunity, then they shouldn't flag as VAR would review the passage of play anyway.

[delmbox]

Re: Awoniyi

Good grief !

If the move had been stopped before Elanga was allowed to cross the ball then neither player would have collided with goal post.

If the move had been stopped then I doubt Awoniyi would have deliberately crashed into the post!

Both points are correct, Awoniyi wouldn't have crashed into the post had she raised the flag but also it's not her job to raise the flag against the guidance they're given just in case someone gets injured so it's also not her fault that he got injured.

All else aside though it is ridiculous that an official can't raise a flag in that scenario, it's the most offside I think I've ever seen someone

[Steve the Tea]

Re: Awoniyi

Yes, but not a judgement call on whether a player may or may not clatter into a post 40 yards away.
When SuperKev clattered into her years ago, she did her job in monitoring the defensive line rather than straying from that because of something possibly going on in the corner of her eye.

The Super Kev incident had nothing to do with the events at Nott'm F which came about because of a daft off-side directive.

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