Bale

[Baloo]

Re: Bale

Showed his class there with three very well-taken goals. Not as good as Chopra’s hat-trick v Leicester mind.

[Forest Green Bluebird]

Re: Bale

Should do a Bellamy and play for City next season.

Once his contract expires at Real Madrid, I wonder whether he will contemplate coming home and playing for his home-town club for next to nothing ... potentially helping us get promoted and staying in the Prem for a change.

He doesn't need any more money and he'll have Whitchurch Golf Club on his doorstep.

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[blue matt]

Re: Bale

great 1st goal, he looked up, checked where the keeper was and put it away

[Taffy Blue in Berkshire]

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Making Mourinho's decision to barely play him look foolish.

Mourinho is one arrogant (albeit rich) Kent.

Love the idea of Bale coming to the CCS, we can but dream.:thumbup:

[Trigger]

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He doesn't strike me as someone that is going to pitch up down here. Think when he can't play at the top or not offered ridiculous money no one would turn down he will probably retire.

[WJ99mobile]

Re: Bale

Making Mourinho's decision to barely play him look foolish.

Didn't deserve to play most of the time.

Has class but didn't look bothered most of the time

[Rjk]

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Didn't deserve to play most of the time.

Has class but didn't look bothered most of the time

Isn't that the manager's job though, to motivate the players and get them playing to their best?

[surge]

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Didn't deserve to play most of the time.

Has class but didn't look bothered most of the time

Two separate statements:

i) Did he deserve to play? He's looked his best off the back of a run of games needed to boost his fitness and when the attention/negativity was on Jose instead of returning superstar out of form, but could Spurs give him a run of games playing below average when they were top of the league earlier in the season? Spurs always knew he'd contribute more at back end of the season and were hoping it was enough to get them into Champions League.

ii) He hasn't looked bothered most of the time? This is laughable: if he'd made a scene he'd be heavily criticised, if he's relaxed in front of the camera he's told he doesn't look bothered. He's acted professionally, and has wanted to act professionally, when he hasn't been given many chances.

[Rjk]

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Two separate statements:

i) Did he deserve to play? He's looked his best off the back of a run of games needed to boost his fitness and when the attention/negativity was on Jose instead of returning superstar out of form, but could Spurs give him a run of games playing below average when they were top of the league earlier in the season? Spurs always knew he'd contribute more at back end of the season and were hoping it was enough to get them into Champions League.

ii) He hasn't looked bothered most of the time? This is laughable: if he'd made a scene he'd be heavily criticised, if he's relaxed in front of the camera he's told he doesn't look bothered. He's acted professionally, and has wanted to act professionally, when he hasn't been given many chances.

Why do things like that KEEP happening in a Jose Mourihnio team though?

The list of talented players who all of a sudden don't deserve to play - but as soon as Jose leave are strangely back to their best is incredible.

[lardy]

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Why do things like that KEEP happening in a Jose Mourihnio team though?

The list of talented players who all of a sudden don't deserve to play - but as soon as Jose leave are strangely back to their best is incredible.

It seems like Jose's ego doesn't allow him to work with successful players who might have egos of their own.

[City123]

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It seems like Jose's ego doesn't allow him to work with successful players who might have egos of their own.

People then buy the bullshit of "the players aren't good enough/they've got massive egos" etc. The season before he took over Spurs had reached the Champions League final, finished 4th in the league and were set to move into a new ground. This was a good team that was going places

[lardy]

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People then buy the bullshit of "the players aren't good enough/they've got massive egos" etc. The season before he took over Spurs had reached the Champions League final, finished 4th in the league and were set to move into a new ground. This was a good team that was going places

Players have to have egos and extra strong self belief or they'll never make it.

But they also have to be team players as they've been in a team all their lives. There's really very few players, if any, that are so individualistic that they can't function with other players. Whereas it's now the norm for Jose. Like you say, he took champions league finalists and perennial qualifiers and made them weaker.

[surge]

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People then buy the bullshit of "the players aren't good enough/they've got massive egos" etc. The season before he took over Spurs had reached the Champions League final, finished 4th in the league and were set to move into a new ground. This was a good team that was going places

2019-2020:

Liverpool win the league for the first time in ages
Spurs finish 6th and enter Europa League qualification following a really short summer due to covid.

2020-2021:

Both Liverpool and Spurs have poor seasons based on small squads and too many games. Klopp is a likeable person (at times he really hasn't been this year) who has history of success with Liverpool and survives, Jose has history of falling out with people and doesn't have history of success with Spurs so falls.

Jose's rough period with Spurs was partly built on not getting into Champions League in 2019-2020 so we'd either have to say he was main factor in that (possibly) or he wasn't and circumstances have subsequently gone against him in a way he hasn't managed well.

What I think we can say is that Klopp and Bale have to a degree both benefited from the amount of negative attention Mourinho has attracted this year.