Evatt, Buckingham, Edwards .... Will it make that much difference ?

[Hilts]

Re: Evatt, Buckingham, Edwards .... Will it make that much difference ?

Ralls could be a bit inconsistent with his set-piece delivery.
Peter Whittingham on the other hand....

Ralls was part of us being a formidable set piece side. Without doubt he is a good set piece taker.

Whittingham is completely different level.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Re: Evatt, Buckingham, Edwards .... Will it make that much difference ?

I think whoever gets the job will have a similar brief to the one Russell Slade did - spend the next 2/3 years moving out those players on higher wages who don’t want to be here so that we can bring the overall costs down. Once we’ve then got a smaller / cheaper squad we can look for the next manager to start considering a stab at finishing in the top 6.

Every single player we have gets into a L1 playoff side. We need pace, and a keeper but we're not miles away. We need the right fit, though. We've spent extortionate sums on buying players like Chris Willock, AEG and Turnbull that just don't suit what we want to do. Until we fix that mess, we'll never be a success. At least Patrick Deboys, who signed those turkeys, is helping pick the new manager. Give me strength! How on Earth is he still employed?! They're making Riza carry the can when our problems run much deeper.

Also, the club will throw everything at getting back to the Champ very quickly. The longer you stay down, the harder it is to get out. I imagine they'll keep as many of our best players as they can and sign some good youngsters on loan.

[Tuerto]

Re: Evatt, Buckingham, Edwards .... Will it make that much difference ?

a good set piece coach would have made a huge difference last season

You're a really good poster and i do enjoy your contributions, but you don't half go to extremes on occasion. A 'Huge' difference? Maybe a little difference, but we can't be sure. set pieces are all about the delivery, movement and the willingness and ability of the players to go and attack the ball in the right area, they'd be working on that stuff every day. Do set piece coaches actually exist?

[City123]

Re: Evatt, Buckingham, Edwards .... Will it make that much difference ?

Every single player we have gets into a L1 playoff side. We need pace, and a keeper but we're not miles away. We need the right fit, though. We've spent extortionate sums on buying players like Chris Willock, AEG and Turnbull that just don't suit what we want to do. Until we fix that mess, we'll never be a success. At least Patrick Deboys, who signed those turkeys, is helping pick the new manager. Give me strength! How on Earth is he still employed?! They're making Riza carry the can when our problems run much deeper.

Also, the club will throw everything at getting back to the Champ very quickly. The longer you stay down, the harder it is to get out. I imagine they'll keep as many of our best players as they can and sign some good youngsters on loan.

Ah but according to Patrick we're the most efficient team in terms of recruitment in the league! Its all going well (don't look at the table, why would you look at the table?)

[City123]

Re: Evatt, Buckingham, Edwards .... Will it make that much difference ?

You're a really good poster and i do enjoy your contributions, but you don't half go to extremes on occasion. A 'Huge' difference? Maybe a little difference, but we can't be sure. set pieces are all about the delivery, movement and the willingness and ability of the players to go and attack the ball in the right area, they'd be working on that stuff every day. Do set piece coaches actually exist?

They're pretty en vogue at the moment

I agree with you though, outside of some occasional clever placement there's very little impact a set piece coach could have imo. Doesn't matter what runs are made if the ball in is shit, or your team is a foot shorter than the opposition etc

[Rjk]

Re: Evatt, Buckingham, Edwards .... Will it make that much difference ?

You're a really good poster and i do enjoy your contributions, but you don't half go to extremes on occasion. A 'Huge' difference? Maybe a little difference, but we can't be sure. set pieces are all about the delivery, movement and the willingness and ability of the players to go and attack the ball in the right area, they'd be working on that stuff every day. Do set piece coaches actually exist?

yeah a bit of hyperbole perhaps, but I do think it might have made a significant difference last season.

it was such a strength of ours for years and now definitely a weakness.

Set piece specialist coaches definitely do exist, and are becoming increasingly widespread.
I think FKM in Denmark did a lot to raise the profile of them.

According to Riza I think it was Gavin Ward and Darren Purse who were in charge of set pieces last season

[Tuerto]

Re: Evatt, Buckingham, Edwards .... Will it make that much difference ?

yeah a bit of hyperbole perhaps, but I do think it might have made a significant difference last season.

it was such a strength of ours for years and now definitely a weakness.

Set piece specialist coaches definitely do exist, and are becoming increasingly widespread.
I think FKM in Denmark did a lot to raise the profile of them.

According to Riza I think it was Gavin Ward and Darren Purse who were in charge of set pieces last season

I hope you don't take what i said as being shitty, it wasn't meant that way. I wasn't aware that there were dedicated Set piece coaches. I've learnt something.

[Rjk]

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I hope you don't take what i said as being shitty, it wasn't meant that way. I wasn't aware that there were dedicated Set piece coaches. I've learnt something.

no I didn't take it as shitty in the slightest.

I think if someone were that thin-skinned they wouldn't last long on here.

[blue matt]

Re: Evatt, Buckingham, Edwards .... Will it make that much difference ?

You're a really good poster and i do enjoy your contributions, but you don't half go to extremes on occasion. A 'Huge' difference? Maybe a little difference, but we can't be sure. set pieces are all about the delivery, movement and the willingness and ability of the players to go and attack the ball in the right area, they'd be working on that stuff every day. Do set piece coaches actually exist?

if it gains us 10 goals, its maybe added a few more points on the board

yes, set piece coaches are a big thing these days, google nicolas jover ( deemed by many as the best in the world at it ) responsible ?? for Arsenal scoring so many from corners, think it was 26 this season ( might be wrong on that )

[Pedro de la Rosa]

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Ah but according to Patrick we're the most efficient team in terms of recruitment in the league! Its all going well (don't look at the table, why would you look at the table?)

Imagine if we didn’t give him £15m and a huge wage bill, we’d get relegated? Oh hang on…

The worst thing is, I think he rates himself and thinks he’s doing a good job. We barely ever sign a player that improves us. Salech and maybe Robertson aside, I don’t think anyone else has for 18 months at least

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Re: Evatt, Buckingham, Edwards .... Will it make that much difference ?

if it gains us 10 goals, its maybe added a few more points on the board

yes, set piece coaches are a big thing these days, google nicolas jover ( deemed by many as the best in the world at it ) responsible ?? for Arsenal scoring so many from corners, think it was 26 this season ( might be wrong on that )

Arsenal have good set piece takers. Ours sail over the back stick or go knee height to the bloke at the front post. They’ve got tall players that are aggressive that attack the ball, again something we lack.

We didn’t need a set piece coach when we had Moore, Flint, Morrison etc. If you put the ball in a good area, with players that want to get on the end of it, you’ll score goals.

[Cardiff Ultra]

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I think the 25% ratio is about right; the question is will any manager be able to add that 25% wth the setup of the club as it is?

We are basically the Man United of the EFL. Chaotic, overbearing, billionaire owners, a poor football structure leading to hiring and firing of managers and a Frankensteins monster of a squad, and players that consistently play worse after they join us.

Its no coincidence that Warnock is the only successful Tan appointment, because he learned his trade in an era when managers did have to do a hell of a lot more. Those managers just aren't around anymore.

I think we'll have to go for a manager who's plyed his trade in the lower divisions. Hiring a young coach type manager like say Ipswich did with Kieron McKenna would just not work at a club with the set up weve got.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Re: Evatt, Buckingham, Edwards .... Will it make that much difference ?

I think the 25% ratio is about right; the question is will any manager be able to add that 25% wth the setup of the club as it is?

We are basically the Man United of the EFL. Chaotic, overbearing, billionaire owners, a poor football structure leading to hiring and firing of managers and a Frankensteins monster of a squad, and players that consistently play worse after they join us.

Its no coincidence that Warnock is the only successful Tan appointment, because he learned his trade in an era when managers did have to do a hell of a lot more. Those managers just aren't around anymore.

I think we'll have to go for a manager who's plyed his trade in the lower divisions. Hiring a young coach type manager like say Ipswich did with Kieron McKenna would just not work at a club with the set up weve got.

We need someone who can actually coach. We do have some young players and their development has been ruined by a lack of coaching

[A Quiet Monkfish]

Re: Evatt, Buckingham, Edwards .... Will it make that much difference ?

Imagine if we didn’t give him £15m and a huge wage bill, we’d get relegated? Oh hang on…

The worst thing is, I think he rates himself and thinks he’s doing a good job. We barely ever sign a player that improves us. Salech and maybe Robertson aside, I don’t think anyone else has for 18 months at least

I keep going back to this - it leaves me in dread and hysterics in equal measure.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/cardiff-city-rip-up-transfer-31115935

[Super Nintendo Chalmers]

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