Senedd election prediction

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I think Plaid will finish as third biggest party but probably made mistakes in: setting a date for referendum when it currently scares a lot of people and perhaps promising to spend too aggressively in their manifesto. The transformative policies are good but think parties of the left need slightly more focus on what's most important/achievable - combining with Gwlad team might help do this.

In addition, fear that Tories would win in big numbers and pandemic giving Labour center stage has probably lost them votes too.

I know it's still early days, much to play for, but is anyone else looking forward to Sludge hastily updating his views on Mark Drakeford?

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Preseli Pembrokeshire:

i)Tories win with 39.0% of the vote and if combined with Reform would get 42.9%.
ii) Labour second with 34.6% but if combined with Plaid would have 54.1%

Carmarthen West & Pembrokeshire South:

i) Tories win with 35.5% of the vote and if combined with Reform and UKIP would get 39.9%
ii) Labour second with 32.6% but if combined with Plaid would get 53.5%

I know it still doesn't work like that but in another universe Labour and Plaid have taken one of those seats each rather than losing both to Tories.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Dreadful night for plaid , vote hardly moved here come the excuses

Good night for Labour but great that drakeford will be stepping down to give a new vibrant leader a chance to pull away

Laughing my arse off at the conservatives , cocky as feck , drooling on about the 22 stale years of Labour and all that crap

Opinion polls in last few days of the election showing a gain in conservative support clearly brought out the good men and women of Wales to get to the polling stations and show up where it mattered to keep the tories out of power in Wales

God bless you all

[Dave Blue]

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I’m so pleased that my country men and women still want decency and values. England needs a good look at itself. Good on the Scots too.

[Harry Paget Flashman]

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Dreadful night for plaid , vote hardly moved here come the excuses

Good night for Labour but great that drakeford will be stepping down to give a new vibrant leader a chance to pull away

Laughing my arse off at the conservatives , cocky as feck , drooling on about the 22 stale years of Labour and all that crap

Opinion polls in last few days of the election showing a gain in conservative support clearly brought out the good men and women of Wales to get to the polling stations and show up where it mattered to keep the tories out of power in Wales

God bless you all

There were never going to be massive gains for Plaid. It's all about them becoming the serious left option in Wales and a long term plan for independence.

Their manifesto was practically the same as Labour and independence will grow when hopefully Scotland and Ireland go.

[NYCBlue]

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I’m so pleased that my country men and women still want decency and values. England needs a good look at itself. Good on the Scots too.

This is why Wales and Scotland need independence. It's the only way to break free of Westminster and Tory rule.

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This is why Wales and Scotland need independence. It's the only way to break free of Westminster and Tory rule.

I don't see any issue with independence and a Welsh Conservative government. The concern is that we don't have a Welsh Conservative party as they currently can't offer anything distinctive for what is clearly a different population/part of the world, and only time a Tory mentions Wales is when they try to win more votes in England.

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I’m so pleased that my country men and women still want decency and values. England needs a good look at itself. Good on the Scots too.

Nice one

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Jane Hutt gives the tories a leathering in the Vale of Glamorgan

Get in there !

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There were never going to be massive gains for Plaid. It's all about them becoming the serious left option in Wales and a long term plan for independence.

Their manifesto was practically the same as Labour and independence will grow when hopefully Scotland and Ireland go.

The thing is the public clearly don't see them as a left wing option

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Apparently, Plaid Cymru were only 21 votes away from a second seat in the North Wales region. Out of 60,000. Ouch.

https://nation.cymru/news/live-blog-...nedd-election/

12 more seats to be declared.

[Harry Paget Flashman]

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The thing is the public clearly don't see them as a left wing option

Most think Labour are.

And if you consider Labour as the left wing option why would you shift to Plaid in this election when Drakeford has been great for 12 months.

Longer term independence becomes a greater issue esp if Scotland goes. If they do watch Labour in Wales start to follow.

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Most think Labour are.

And if you consider Labour as the left wing option why would you shift to Plaid in this election when Drakeford has been great for 12 months.

Longer term independence becomes a greater issue esp if Scotland goes. If they do watch Labour in Wales start to follow.

you hope

[J R Hartley]

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Dinosaurs in the Valleys are still protesting against Maggie Thatcher. The woman who stands for Labour in Merthyr is a self serving **** , she don’t even know the name of the town ffs. Heartbreaking.

[J R Hartley]

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Time to shake it up I reckon. People over 55 shouldn’t be allowed to vote. Old ****’s pulling the ladder up and destroying the younger generations future.