Obscene salary

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Football should be cheaper for fans to go to. If for nothing else, than to ensure the next generation is going to stadiums to create the atmosphere that the Premier League uses to market itself.

But that's not the players' fault. Their families make massive sacrifices from a young age to get where they are now. Ticket prices aren't high because they're demanding massive wages. The clubs get most money from TV rights, and that gives them the hundreds of millions that enables them to offer this kind of wage to make sure the player signs for them and not a rival.

I've never wanted to criticise players for this. They just happen to play at a time when wages are this high. The money is there regardless, and if not going towards the players then it would just be to shareholders or to hold up other parts of the conglomerate that owns the club.

In a better world, Grealish and others wouldn't earn so much and that money would be used in the club's community. But that isn't gonna happen, and I expect there are people making an absolute fortune behind the scenes who are very happy to have the spotlight on the players and not them.

Perfect :thumbup:

[JamesWales]

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Football should be cheaper for fans to go to. If for nothing else, than to ensure the next generation is going to stadiums to create the atmosphere that the Premier League uses to market itself.

But that's not the players' fault. Their families make massive sacrifices from a young age to get where they are now. Ticket prices aren't high because they're demanding massive wages. The clubs get most money from TV rights, and that gives them the hundreds of millions that enables them to offer this kind of wage to make sure the player signs for them and not a rival.

I've never wanted to criticise players for this. They just happen to play at a time when wages are this high. The money is there regardless, and if not going towards the players then it would just be to shareholders or to hold up other parts of the conglomerate that owns the club.

In a better world, Grealish and others wouldn't earn so much and that money would be used in the club's community. But that isn't gonna happen, and I expect there are people making an absolute fortune behind the scenes who are very happy to have the spotlight on the players and not them.

Yeah I agree. But I think that's why there needs to be better "protections" for fans, so that we can ensure the long term sustainability of the sport and that fans don't end up paying the extreme wages through ever rising ticket, shirt prices.

I do agree that the premier League has to compete and I want them here paying taxes, but I think ensuring a few concessions for fans would reduce much of the anxiety about what they earn and its easily doable.

[lardy]

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Yeah I agree. But I think that's why there needs to be better "protections" for fans, so that we can ensure the long term sustainability of the sport and that fans don't end up paying the extreme wages through ever rising ticket, shirt prices.

I do agree that the premier League has to compete and I want them here paying taxes, but I think ensuring a few concessions for fans would reduce much of the anxiety about what they earn and its easily doable.

I remember that the PL used to have something to put money back into the community. I think it was a paltry amount and that was 15 years ago, don't know if they do now. Obviously clubs would never do it voluntarily if it meant slashing wages. So we're pretty much stuck with it.

Taxes is another reason why it's better for players to get the money than shareholders or shell companies or whatever. Tevez's payslip was leaked once, and he was on PAYE!

[Canton Kev]

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Football is one of the few jobs where talent is linked to success/money. There’s very little room for nepotism, family connections, etc especially at the higher levels because if you genuinely aren’t good enough you’ll be dropped.
He isn’t that good, and has been dropped ?

He still “earned” his contract though. He wasn’t signed by Man City as a favour to some family connection or because he knew someone at the club or for a marketing/publicity stunt.

Football is one of the very small avenues in life that can turn a working class kid into a millionaire all off the back of skill and hard work. And of course a bit of luck.

[WJ99mobile]

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I kind of see it both ways.

Depends what you class a football club as, is it a community asset.

If so I donÂ’t care what players get paid so long as the output remains the same meaning ticket prices and facilities.

I do think there should be an independent body that should allow to set ticket prices and food and drink provisions.

[William Treseder]

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He still “earned” his contract though. He wasn’t signed by Man City as a favour to some family connection or because he knew someone at the club or for a marketing/publicity stunt.

Football is one of the very small avenues in life that can turn a working class kid into a millionaire all off the back of skill and hard work. And of course a bit of luck.

Which ever way you want to wrap it up, he isn’t worth £300k a week. No footballer is. It’s not his fault, but it is an obscene wage.
Darwyn Nunez, is now on £400k a week. Tax free. Crazy!!

[Canton Kev]

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Which ever way you want to wrap it up, he isn’t worth £300k a week. No footballer is. It’s not his fault, but it is an obscene wage.
Darwyn Nunez, is now on £400k a week. Tax free. Crazy!!

How much is he worth? 100k a week? 20k?

The prize money for winning the Premier League is £170m+. Man City have won 3 PL titles in Grealish’s 4 seasons at the club.

[JamesWales]

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I remember that the PL used to have something to put money back into the community. I think it was a paltry amount and that was 15 years ago, don't know if they do now. Obviously clubs would never do it voluntarily if it meant slashing wages. So we're pretty much stuck with it.

Taxes is another reason why it's better for players to get the money than shareholders or shell companies or whatever. Tevez's payslip was leaked once, and he was on PAYE!

I think clubs do do a lot in their communities, most of which goes under the radar. I do think some clear guidance on ticket pricing is needing though and as I say if you can keep those protections then I think anxiety on wages would be vastly reduced.

At the end of the day clubs will pay what the market dictates and at £300,000 a week he will (or should) be paying some £7m a year in tax which I would rather he do here than in Spain or Italy.

Unquestionably though, it sours my wider appreciation of footballs role in society when Evertons home end tickets are £55 and he's getting £300k a week. If every club has to offer 5000 tickets at £25 and Grealish got £275,000 a week, I think the world would be a slightly better place for it.

[William Treseder]

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How much is he worth? 100k a week? 20k?

The prize money for winning the Premier League is £170m+. Man City have won 3 PL titles in Grealish’s 4 seasons at the club.

Football is only a game. It’s not life or death.
It would take a fireman, or Paramedic etc, about 36 yrs, to earn what Grealish can earn in 6 weeks. That’s what makes it obscene.
Can you not see that?