Palestine Israel

[Rjk]

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I'm not so sure loads of people want to be king or queen of any country, including England.
And thanks for acknowledging that 1 in 5 people in Israel are are Arabs; an extremely generous stance from Israel given that certain Arabs have been aiming to obliterate them for many thousands of years and indeed NOW!

* Example (**SEPTEMBER 2021) >> "A top European Union official has denounced Palestinian Authority textbooks as “deeply problematic” after a study found that the educational materials promote antisemitic tropes, glorify violence against civilians, and erase Israel from maps of the region" - LINK

what the hell?
"certain" Arabs in your words are aiming to obliterate Israel. so in your opinion it is *extremely generous* for Israel to allow any Arabs to live there? Are you suggesting that all Arabs are in some way culpable for the actions or rhetoric of a few?

[Toadstool]

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Haven’t read the whole thread (yet) but it always amazes and saddens me that a race that went through what the Jews did in the 20th century can behave in the way they do towards another race no matter the argument.

[truthpaste]

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what the hell?
"certain" Arabs in your words are aiming to obliterate Israel. so in your opinion it is *extremely generous* for Israel to allow any Arabs to live there? Are you suggesting that all Arabs are in some way culpable for the actions or rhetoric of a few?

Obviously not, and neither do Israel as we see this from the fact that they welcome Arab businesses and families to settle and prosper in Israel.
It's remarkable how most people in these discussions view the actions of Israel through a microscope and everyone around them the same as Arsene Wenger when his centre half cuts the oppositions striker in half

[jeepster]

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Haven’t read the whole thread (yet) but it always amazes and saddens me that a race that went through what the Jews did in the 20th century can behave in the way they do towards another race no matter the argument.

This how i feel .Just so sad.

[truthpaste]

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This how i feel .Just so sad.

The deputy head of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps said Monday that Tehran’s strategy was to eventually wipe Israel off the “global political map.” - Article

Yes, brilliant logic, they should allow anyone to have another pop at erasing them from history

[jon1959]

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The deputy head of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps said Monday that Tehran’s strategy was to eventually wipe Israel off the “global political map.” - Article

Yes, brilliant logic, they should allow anyone to have another pop at erasing them from history

By stealing Palestinian land, demolishing homes, ethnic cleansing, and treating Arabs in Israel and the occupied territories as second class citizens - in practice and in law?

Iran faces international sanctions. Israel gets a diplomatic free pass with the USA veto in the UN, is armed and funded by the USA, and has open lobbying groups that include organised sections of the two major parties in the UK parliament.

But if GOD has given Israeli Jews the ‘title deeds’ to other people’s land in the region all must be OK? That is your Zionist belief - but not the belief of a growing number of secular, socialist, younger and even Orthodox Jews around the world.

[jeepster]

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The deputy head of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps said Monday that Tehran’s strategy was to eventually wipe Israel off the “global political map.” - Article

Yes, brilliant logic, they should allow anyone to have another pop at erasing them from history

yes your bible is so perfect too.

“The Lord shall cause your enemies who rise up against you to be defeated before you; they will come out against you one way and will flee before you seven ways. Until I make Your enemies a footstool for Your feet.”’

[truthpaste]

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yes your bible is so perfect too.

“The Lord shall cause your enemies who rise up against you to be defeated before you; they will come out against you one way and will flee before you seven ways. Until I make Your enemies a footstool for Your feet.”’

So what imperfection are you referring to re the above passage?

[jeepster]

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So what imperfection are you referring to re the above passage?

How about using dead bodies as a footstool,very christian ways.

[truthpaste]

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How about using dead bodies as a footstool,very christian ways.

That particular phrase is a metaphor, and if you look at their history, and to use a footballing term, they have always used the counter attack rather than gone looking for enemies to defeat.
To disagree with such actions, you would also need to say that Churchill was wrong by saying "We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender".

Or should we be all talking German, never missing penalties and buying sauerkraut on the way home from the match?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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That particular phrase is a metaphor, and if you look at their history, and to use a footballing term, they have always used the counter attack rather than gone looking for enemies to defeat.
To disagree with such actions, you would also need to say that Churchill was wrong by saying "We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender".

Or should we be all talking German, never missing penalties and buying sauerkraut on the way home from the match?

Churchill didn't win us the war , the men and women of all nationalities .......and he didn't like them ......did

He didn't do any fighting at all

And when it ended he carved up Europe and many people died in ethnic cleansing as he and others stood by

Don't bring him into this debate please 🙄

[truthpaste]

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Churchill didn't win us the war , the men and women of all nationalities .......and he didn't like them ......did

He didn't do any fighting at all

And when it ended he carved up Europe and many people died in ethnic cleansing as he and others stood by

Don't bring him into this debate please 🙄

I didn't say that he did win us the war, try reading what is said rather than addressing something that hasn't been said!
I asked, was he WRONG to say what he did, yes or no?

[truthpaste]

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yes your bible is so perfect too.

“The Lord shall cause your enemies who rise up against you to be defeated before you; they will come out against you one way and will flee before you seven ways. Until I make Your enemies a footstool for Your feet.”’

God has determined certain things that will happen for Israel come what may. While many may not understand that mindset, God has also said that all who stand by them will prosper and vv for those who do the opposite. History has repeatedly shown this to be true.

[jon1959]

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God has determined certain things that will happen for Israel come what may. While many may not understand that mindset, God has also said that all who stand by them will prosper and vv for those who do the opposite. History has repeatedly shown this to be true.

No, many do not understand that mindset.

It is depressing, infantile and dangerous.

It leads to your stance of not just excusing, but trumpeting war crimes and daily human rights abuses.

Slow but incessant ethnic cleansing to you is evidence of Israeli 'restraint' - as if they should get a Nobel Peace Prize for taking their time!

And history has shown nothing of the sort!

[truthpaste]

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No, many do not understand that mindset.

It is depressing, infantile and dangerous.

It leads to your stance of not just excusing, but trumpeting war crimes and daily human rights abuses.

Slow but incessant ethnic cleansing to you is evidence of Israeli 'restraint' - as if they should get a Nobel Peace Prize for taking their time!

And history has shown nothing of the sort!

Thanks for admitting you don't understand, and the expected attack without dialogue.

The truth is, you are more interested in hatred than understanding.