Salech .

[Rjk]

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So do long throws, apparently. They're here to stay. Again.

I'd love to hear how XG 'works', but maybe we can move that to another thread.

Yes the resurgence of long throws has a lot to do with stats as well.
I can;t remember all the details but there was someone a few years ago looking at the outcomes of the passage of play (i cant remember exactly how this was defined) immediately after a long vs a short throw in similar areas of the pitch. they looked at what happened in thousands of throws in a number of leagues.

The long throws had a slightly higher incidence of that passage of play ending with a shot being taken by the side taking the throw-in. Which is probably not a big surprise, as a good long through can be a potent set piece.

More surprising was there was a much bigger difference between the teams in the number of shots conceded in the following passage of play - with the long throw being lower.

Following this you started to see more and more teams adopting a long throw, where it was once the sole preserve of the route 1 merchants.


In terms of xG working - there's a nice example from this season in league 1.

Bolton had a bit of a sluggish start to the season - after 6 games they were in 14th with 7 points, and after 10 games they were 11th with 14 points.
However from the start of the season until now they've been by far the best team from the point of view of xG - most xG for and least xG against. So even though they were dropping points at the start of the season anyone looking a the xG would be able to understand that they were always likely to start shooting up the table - and will probably be the team to beat this season.

[The Lone Gunman]

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However from the start of the season until now they've been by far the best team from the point of view of xG - most xG for and least xG against. So even though they were dropping points at the start of the season anyone looking at the xG would be able to understand that they were always likely to start shooting up the table...

Anyone watching their games would have understood that. Nobody needed some daft stat regarding 'expected goals' to see it. Bolton were one of the favourites for promotion at the start of the season and they only lost once before the end of September. It was obvious they would be a promotion contender.

The team to beat, though? One of them, certainly. But despite an apparently marvellous XG rating, they are currently fifth.

[Bald Barry Bastad]

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I've been saying this for ages that Salech is instigating the physical battles rather than the other way round. It doesn't reflect well on BBM that he has allowed this behavior to continue. Surely as a manager he should be telling the player to focus on the ball and not the opposition.

[The Lone Gunman]

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I've been saying this for ages that Salech is instigating the physical battles rather than the other way round. It doesn't reflect well on BBM that he has allowed this behavior to continue. Surely as a manager he should be telling the player to focus on the ball and not the opposition.

It's difficult though if the player's natural instinct is to engage in a physical battle. Salech is fast approaching his 24th birthday. He's relatively inexperienced at senior level. Time is on his side for sure, but any change in his playing style will almost certainly be gradual.

[Tuerto]

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Very interesting interview with BBM in the second half of the Rob abd Blakey podcast this week with a fascinating discussion presenting another side to the debate about Salech being fouled all of the time.

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[The Lone Gunman]

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Spot on.

[Trigger]

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He definitely needs to be more subtle at times. At the weekend the clear shove when he has the chance to at least compete for it being one example of when he has to do better.

Undoubtedly he doesn't get anywhere near his fair share of decisions mind.

[splott parker]

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Very interesting interview with BBM in the second half of the Rob abd Blakey podcast this week with a fascinating discussion presenting another side to the debate about Salech being fouled all of the time.

So interesting & informative listening to Barry-Murphy. No daft cliches, just plain sensible talking. You can’t help like the fella. Steve Morison should be made to watch that on a loop.

[Tuerto]

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So interesting & informative listening to Barry-Murphy. No daft cliches, just plain sensible talking. You canÂ’t help like the fella. Steve Morison should be made to watch that on a loop.

He's honest, he doesn't blow smoke up anyone's arse, he expects from his players, he wants them to improve, there aren't any excuses from him which is something i really admire in a person. He doesn't moan when things aren't going his way. Just solutions, even if they don't work out. I really like him.

[Chris Pontprennau Blues]

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That was an outstanding pod cast with BBM - deffo worth a listen :thumbup:

[kendoddsdadsdogsdead]

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So....Murphy has had a word with Salech.
I fully expect a new look striker on Saturday...all about scoring goals.

[The Lone Gunman]

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Marin O'Neil is a dinosaur .

The dinosaur seems to be doing OK at present. Not sure what Celtic’s XG is since he took control, but their GF and GA certainly appear to have improved.

[B. Oddie]

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The dinosaur seems to be doing OK at present. Not sure what Celtic’s XG is since he took control, but their GF and GA certainly appear to have improved.

:hehe:

Hopefully they don't have VD.

[olderblue]

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So interesting & informative listening to Barry-Murphy. No daft cliches, just plain sensible talking. You can’t help like the fella. Steve Morison should be made to watch that on a loop.

I really hope he’s here for a good few years, I love his honesty and his approach to the job
We could see promotion this year but whatever happens we’re making progress

[splott parker]

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I really hope he’s here for a good few years, I love his honesty and his approach to the job
We could see promotion this year but whatever happens we’re making progress

That’s the downside of a decent manager. We’d be the victims of his success unfortunately. The upside is that he’d leave us as an attractive option for another up and coming manager.