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  • #16
    Re: County

    Originally posted by Moodybluebird View Post
    Giving it a rugby slant, Wales 'hate' their big brothers next door but I don't know of many England fans who reciprocate this hatred. On the contrary, by and large England fans want Wales to do well, unless they're player against them if course.
    That is not true at all.

    England Rugby fans hate Wales, and particularly hate it when we do well.

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    • #17
      Re: County

      Originally posted by Moodybluebird View Post
      Giving it a rugby slant, Wales 'hate' their big brothers next door but I don't know of many England fans who reciprocate this hatred. On the contrary, by and large England fans want Wales to do well, unless they're player against them if course.
      I've lived in England since 1989 and have never met any England fans wanting Wales to do well at rugby and since the euros in 16 not many wish is well in football either. Seems we get disliked as soon as we can compete with them

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      • #18
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        Originally posted by Rjk View Post
        That is not true at all.

        England Rugby fans hate Wales, and particularly hate it when we do well.
        Maybe we mix in different circles because all the English people I know and there are lots of them don't understand this, "I support two teams, Wales and anyone playing England" mantra, when they do like to see Wales doing well. I've seen it for myself on holiday too during the Rugby World Cup when England fans were cheering on Wales during the group matches. Probably not true of English football fans though.

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        • #19
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          Originally posted by Trigger View Post
          They may dislike us but I found myself wanting them to win.

          Imagine in 10 years or so we are both in say the championship, could finally have a proper local rivalry.

          Economically, success for them may also boost the cardiff area, some big clubs in league 1, if fans are allowed to travel they may stay here, spend money in the area etc. Every little helps at the moment. Also of course for Newport which would notice any benefit far more.
          The ways things are going you might get your wish of a local derby sooner than 10 years

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          • #20
            Re: County

            Originally posted by Moodybluebird View Post
            Maybe we mix in different circles because all the English people I know and there are lots of them don't understand this, "I support two teams, Wales and anyone playing England" mantra, when they do like to see Wales doing well. I've seen it for myself on holiday too during the Rugby World Cup when England fans were cheering on Wales during the group matches. Probably not true of English football fans though.
            we must do, in my experience the English people who are really into their rugby, definitely don't like to see Wales doing well.
            the casual fan maybe isn't bothered as much

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            • #21
              Re: County

              Originally posted by Moodybluebird View Post
              Giving it a rugby slant, Wales 'hate' their big brothers next door but I don't know of many England fans who reciprocate this hatred. On the contrary, by and large England fans want Wales to do well, unless they're player against them if course.
              Wales are England's rivals and regularly beat them. We haven't played Newport in a league game for over 30 years and Wrexham for nearly 20.

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              • #22
                Re: County

                Originally posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
                Wales are England's rivals and regularly beat them. We haven't played Newport in a league game for over 30 years and Wrexham for nearly 20.
                We’ve only ever been in the same division 10 times in our league history, all in the 30’s and 80’s. We’ve played more league games against the likes of Liverpool and Man Utd. Talk to any Cewnty fan and they say we’re massive rivals. I’ve never felt that way about them.

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                • #23
                  Re: County

                  I live in Newport for over 50 years and I’ve never heard anyone consider County or City as massive rivals, in fact most don’t even consider City as rivals of any kind.

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                  • #24
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                    Originally posted by Cleve van Leef View Post
                    I live in Newport for over 50 years and I’ve never heard anyone consider County or City as massive rivals, in fact most don’t even consider City as rivals of any kind.
                    Hereford , Swindon , Bristol rovers used to be county's rivals

                    Cardiff have always had a following from Risca, cwmbran , pontypool , Rogerstone, Malpas

                    I don't know about the city itself

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                    • #25
                      Re: County

                      Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                      Hereford , Swindon , Bristol rovers used to be county's rivals

                      Cardiff have always had a following from Risca, cwmbran , pontypool , Rogerstone, Malpas

                      I don't know about the city itself
                      they're all Liverpool fans

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                      • #26
                        Re: County

                        Originally posted by Rjk View Post
                        they're all Liverpool fans
                        The Kop Shop has shut now

                        Maybe they have all started following cewnty

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                        • #27
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                          Always had a soft spot for County and it was not unknown for a fair number of people to watch the teams on alternate Saturdays.
                          Not sure that I have really heard anyone call them big rivals as that post was filled by Bristol City for years and now Swansea for most. Local rivals , certainly, when we were in the same division but it was short lived and hardly intense.

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                          • #28
                            Re: County

                            Originally posted by Rjk View Post
                            That is not true at all.

                            England Rugby fans hate Wales, and particularly hate it when we do well.
                            Completely agree with that.

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                            • #29
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                              Originally posted by Cyncoed Slumdog View Post
                              Completely agree with that.
                              Absolutely

                              And Welsh rugby fans hate England

                              But only in the rugby

                              Football wise most rugby boys I know are Liverpool or United fans which are of course English clubs

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                              • #30
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                                Originally posted by MacAdder View Post
                                It may have something to do with empathy for Newport and their fans going into administration.

                                No fan of football likes to see any team fold at any level of the game, particularly if they are an old well established club.

                                I, and I'd imagine many on here, went to the Cardiff City v Man United fundraiser for them back in 80 something in the hope they could survive.
                                Imagine being a fan of theirs in those times.

                                .
                                I was there. I'm sure it was November (or thereabouts '76!)

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