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    We've been assured by health officials that Covid jabs are safe - even if there are some indications that blood clots may be caused in rare cases.
    Well, 'safe' seems to mean we are far less likely to die from a dose of the Covid virus after being jabbed than from any clots that may be caused by the jab - which is not really 'safe' in my book.
    The message has been pumped out that the jabs have passed strenuous testing procedures and are meant to be reassured by this. But just how good are these tests?
    Today, we have been reminded of the scandal of infected blood transfusions sanctioned by the NHS which killed around 3,000 who were given blood containing HIV and hepatitis C in the 1970s and 1980 and blighted the lives of many thousands of their surviving relatives.
    "Nearly 5,000 people with the blood disorder haemophilia were infected with potentially fatal viruses after being given a clotting agent called Factor VIII.
    Much of the drug was imported from the US, where prisoners and other at-risk groups were often paid to donate the plasma used to make it.
    Victims included dozens of young haemophiliacs at a boarding school in Hampshire who died after contracting HIV as a result.
    Tens of thousands more victims may have been exposed to viral hepatitis through blood transfusions after an operation or childbirth."
    One assumes this procedure was rigorously researched and tested before it was rolled out. Yet there was a deadly aftermath.
    "That was fifty years ago - tests are vastly better today"
    Really?
    We are not talking about centuries-old medical practices like blood letting or the use of leeches here. The scientists and researchers of the 1970s would have considered themselves to be modern and incredibly well-informed - just like those today.
    From my own limited experience I've come to realise that specialist doctors do not understand the relationship between different glands and organs in our wonderful bodies despite years of study and experience.
    Saying 'Sorry', doesn't cut it Mr Hancock . "Sorry" is not the hardest word. It's easily trotted out to assuage the effects of terrible actions and has become meaningless and trite.
    Just something to consider next time we allow our bodies to be invaded.
    Just something to think about before criticising folk who refuse the jab - the poor, misguided and ill-informed.

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    I had my second OAZ jab two days ago and I'm feeling fine.

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          Re: If we've been jabbed, maybe we should be just a little concerned...

          Originally posted by Cyclops View Post
          We've been assured by health officials that Covid jabs are safe - even if there are some indications that blood clots may be caused in rare cases.
          Well, 'safe' seems to mean we are far less likely to die from a dose of the Covid virus after being jabbed than from any clots that may be caused by the jab - which is not really 'safe' in my book.
          The message has been pumped out that the jabs have passed strenuous testing procedures and are meant to be reassured by this. But just how good are these tests?
          Today, we have been reminded of the scandal of infected blood transfusions sanctioned by the NHS which killed around 3,000 who were given blood containing HIV and hepatitis C in the 1970s and 1980 and blighted the lives of many thousands of their surviving relatives.
          "Nearly 5,000 people with the blood disorder haemophilia were infected with potentially fatal viruses after being given a clotting agent called Factor VIII.
          Much of the drug was imported from the US, where prisoners and other at-risk groups were often paid to donate the plasma used to make it.
          Victims included dozens of young haemophiliacs at a boarding school in Hampshire who died after contracting HIV as a result.
          Tens of thousands more victims may have been exposed to viral hepatitis through blood transfusions after an operation or childbirth."
          One assumes this procedure was rigorously researched and tested before it was rolled out. Yet there was a deadly aftermath.
          "That was fifty years ago - tests are vastly better today"
          Really?
          We are not talking about centuries-old medical practices like blood letting or the use of leeches here. The scientists and researchers of the 1970s would have considered themselves to be modern and incredibly well-informed - just like those today.
          From my own limited experience I've come to realise that specialist doctors do not understand the relationship between different glands and organs in our wonderful bodies despite years of study and experience.
          Saying 'Sorry', doesn't cut it Mr Hancock . "Sorry" is not the hardest word. It's easily trotted out to assuage the effects of terrible actions and has become meaningless and trite.
          Just something to consider next time we allow our bodies to be invaded.
          Just something to think about before criticising folk who refuse the jab - the poor, misguided and ill-informed.
          what on earth?

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            Re: If we've been jabbed, maybe we should be just a little concerned...

            Blood transfusion is completely different to having the jab???

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            • #7
              Re: If we've been jabbed, maybe we should be just a little concerned...

              Originally posted by Cyclops View Post
              We've been assured by health officials that Covid jabs are safe - even if there are some indications that blood clots may be caused in rare cases.
              Well, 'safe' seems to mean we are far less likely to die from a dose of the Covid virus after being jabbed than from any clots that may be caused by the jab - which is not really 'safe' in my book.
              The message has been pumped out that the jabs have passed strenuous testing procedures and are meant to be reassured by this. But just how good are these tests?
              Today, we have been reminded of the scandal of infected blood transfusions sanctioned by the NHS which killed around 3,000 who were given blood containing HIV and hepatitis C in the 1970s and 1980 and blighted the lives of many thousands of their surviving relatives.
              "Nearly 5,000 people with the blood disorder haemophilia were infected with potentially fatal viruses after being given a clotting agent called Factor VIII.
              Much of the drug was imported from the US, where prisoners and other at-risk groups were often paid to donate the plasma used to make it.
              Victims included dozens of young haemophiliacs at a boarding school in Hampshire who died after contracting HIV as a result.
              Tens of thousands more victims may have been exposed to viral hepatitis through blood transfusions after an operation or childbirth."
              One assumes this procedure was rigorously researched and tested before it was rolled out. Yet there was a deadly aftermath.
              "That was fifty years ago - tests are vastly better today"
              Really?
              We are not talking about centuries-old medical practices like blood letting or the use of leeches here. The scientists and researchers of the 1970s would have considered themselves to be modern and incredibly well-informed - just like those today.
              From my own limited experience I've come to realise that specialist doctors do not understand the relationship between different glands and organs in our wonderful bodies despite years of study and experience.
              Saying 'Sorry', doesn't cut it Mr Hancock . "Sorry" is not the hardest word. It's easily trotted out to assuage the effects of terrible actions and has become meaningless and trite.
              Just something to consider next time we allow our bodies to be invaded.
              Just something to think about before criticising folk who refuse the jab - the poor, misguided and ill-informed.
              Let me think now, who to believe when I think about taking the COVID jab. World health authorities, virologists, scientists or someone who posts on CCMB.

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                Re: If we've been jabbed, maybe we should be just a little concerned...

                I've just seen evidence that 100% of people who had the jab will die within 200 years.

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                • #9
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                  Originally posted by bobh View Post
                  I've just seen evidence that 100% of people who had the jab will die within 200 years.
                  That....may not be true

                  Some people think with the rate of medical advancement it is entirely possible that the first person to live to 200 may already have been born

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                  • #10
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                    Originally posted by Rjk View Post
                    That....may not be true

                    Some people think with the rate of medical advancement it is entirely possible that the first person to live to 200 may already have been born
                    And yet life expectancy was going down in the UK before the pandemic.

                    As for the OP, I had my second jab eight days ago and I feel about five per cent as “concerned” now as I did before I had my first one.

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                    • #11
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                      Had my two invasions a few months ago. Flu invasion for me next in the autumn.

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                      • #12
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                        Got my jab booked Monday, can’t wait :thumbup:

                        Humans are shit at assessing risks and the risk of a reaction from these vaccines using real world data is minuscule. You can never have 0 risk but if you’re worried about the risk from your jab you should probably never get in a car or cross the road ever again.

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                        • #13
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                          The last paragraph of the OP message perfectly sums up the contents of his own post. Poor, misguided and ill informed. Probably composed whilst under the influence of something. The rate of blood clots after having the jab is no higher than that found in the general population normally. Therefore a jab that makes getting Covid less likely than having a blood clot as a result of the jab is extremely safe, as evidenced by the 37m people so far in this country who have had it. Mind numbingly stupid would be my description of the OP message. Who in their right mind would try to make out that scientific practices 50 years ago were comparable to today. Millions of people were dying then from small pox alone, eradicated in 1980 by, you guessed it, a vaccination programme, which no doubt the OP would have encouraged people not to take.

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                          • #14
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                            had my 2nd yesterday astra jab

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                            • #15
                              Re: If we've been jabbed, maybe we should be just a little concerned...

                              Though I wouldn't necessarily agree with OP I would say if you're feeling ill (they give a leaflet to help know what to look out for) you shouldn't be worried about phoning GP/health services for help.

                              I would agree that those who have more concerns, say the majority of Australia, shouldn't be treated badly. But I don't think anyone is doing that?

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