Things to be positive about

[Trigger]

Get a sense over the last couple of weeks or so of some losing their heads and a bit of perspective.

Taking a step back from the disappointment of last night and looking at the season as a whole there's plenty to be positive about.

10 clear of third with now only 8 to play.

Still on the 2 points a game average.

Some of the best passing football I've seen from any City side.

Plenty of goal of the season contenders.

A squad with a good number of local players or players from the academy.

The sun is shining.



At the start of the season I'd have 100% taken this position. I genuinely thought we would be mid table after a quite horrific relegation.

Just need to see it out but I don't really want to be wishing it away, it's not every season city are challenging for automatic promotion, even if it is league 1.

Hopefully can enjoy the ride for the rest of the season.

[Underhill1980]

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Amen to that

[Chris Pontprennau Blues]

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Accurate post

[bluesp]

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Spot on! After the dire football of the previous few seasons it’s been a breath of fresh air this time around. I thought we’d be lucky to make the play offs before the season started.

[the other bob wilson]

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Get a sense over the last couple of weeks or so of some losing their heads and a bit of perspective.

Taking a step back from the disappointment of last night and looking at the season as a whole there's plenty to be positive about.

10 clear of third with now only 8 to play.

Still on the 2 points a game average.

Some of the best passing football I've seen from any City side.

Plenty of goal of the season contenders.

A squad with a good number of local players or players from the academy.

The sun is shining.



At the start of the season I'd have 100% taken this position. I genuinely thought we would be mid table after a quite horrific relegation.

Just need to see it out but I don't really want to be wishing it away, it's not every season city are challenging for automatic promotion, even if it is league 1.

Hopefully can enjoy the ride for the rest of the season.

Well said, this is the most enjoyable City season of this century in my opinion - I’d be jealous of the supporters of another club with the same playing style and results as we’ve had this season, especially one with as many young home grown prospects making an impact as we have.

[Coyote]

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It has been a very nice season, and BBM has done a fantastic job and built good will with how he's managed to turn a very troubled club's fortunes around. My worry is that he's started to suffer from Russell Martinitis and has no answer to a team that plays good counter-attacking football. There are clear errors with his gameplan that we as fans are starting to notice crop up more and more, so certainly other teams are noticing them (most obvious against Lincoln). We can get away with that in League One because we have a high-quality squad compared to most teams, but in the Championship, we will get punished and best-case scenario, we fall into the same limbo Swansea are in now in the Championship, drifting around the second third of the table for a while. Teams like Millwall and Hull are going for it, and even Bristol and Preston have had bright spots this season.

[Tuerto]

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Well said, this is the most enjoyable City season of this century in my opinion - IÂ’d be jealous of the supporters of another club with the same playing style and results as weÂ’ve had this season, especially one with as many young home grown prospects making an impact as we have.

That Warnock promotion season takes some beating though. I know that you're looking at it from a different angle, a more pure and sustainable perspective, but for sheer fun and a complete sense that we shouldn't have been where we were (and we shouldn't have been) with the players at our disposal, then it's the Warnock promotion. So much of it wrong if we scratch the surface, and i do believe that Warnock was the start of the demise, he had no plan. It was careless and we all knew that it would blow up, but i loved it.

[Coyote]

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Warnock was not the start of Cardiff's demise, we might arguably be the club most widely associated with Warnock in his managerial career. We were always going to have a struggle staying up, and then the Sala thing happened, which just destroyed everyone's spirit and left us 15 million under. Post Warnock was also when Tan started to get more involved in the footballing side of things again. Bulut's first season was nothing short of a miracle as we were heavy favourites to be relegated in the season he took over, yet he took us to a cozy 12th place finish with ugly, albeit acceptable defensive football. Then the wheels completely fell off the next season as Bulut failed and Tan inserted himself in again and we finished dead last in accordance to Opta's prediction (they also had us finishing dead last in Bulut's first season).

Even though they didn't play for us anymore, losing Whittingham and Bamba was also a massive hit to club, fan and player morale. We really needed this season, and I'm grateful for BBM for giving us it. I want to see him succeed, because of how great he has been earlier this season.

[The Lone Gunman]

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Bulut's first season was nothing short of a miracle as we were heavy favourites to be relegated in the season he took over....

No we weren't. Not even close.

[Coyote]

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No we weren't. Not even close.

I seem to recall an Opta super computer simulation predicting us dead last, with QPR second-last. The one I'm finding at the moment had us placing 19th.

[The Lone Gunman]

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I seem to recall an Opta super computer simulation predicting us dead last, with QPR second-last. The one I'm finding at the moment had us placing 19th.

The pre-season odds for relegation in Bulut's first season were:

15/8 - Rotherham
12/5 - Plymouth
3/1 - Huddersfield
3/1 - QPR
7/2 - Sheffield Wednesday
4/1 - Birmingham
4/1 - Cardiff

(Prices taken from the Racing Post's Big Kick-Off pre-season guide, 31/07/2023)

[jon1959]

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Get a sense over the last couple of weeks or so of some losing their heads and a bit of perspective.

Taking a step back from the disappointment of last night and looking at the season as a whole there's plenty to be positive about.

10 clear of third with now only 8 to play.

Still on the 2 points a game average.

Some of the best passing football I've seen from any City side.

Plenty of goal of the season contenders.

A squad with a good number of local players or players from the academy.

The sun is shining.



At the start of the season I'd have 100% taken this position. I genuinely thought we would be mid table after a quite horrific relegation.

Just need to see it out but I don't really want to be wishing it away, it's not every season city are challenging for automatic promotion, even if it is league 1.

Hopefully can enjoy the ride for the rest of the season.

:thumbup:

[the other bob wilson]

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Warnock was not the start of Cardiff's demise, we might arguably be the club most widely associated with Warnock in his managerial career. We were always going to have a struggle staying up, and then the Sala thing happened, which just destroyed everyone's spirit and left us 15 million under. Post Warnock was also when Tan started to get more involved in the footballing side of things again. Bulut's first season was nothing short of a miracle as we were heavy favourites to be relegated in the season he took over, yet he took us to a cozy 12th place finish with ugly, albeit acceptable defensive football. Then the wheels completely fell off the next season as Bulut failed and Tan inserted himself in again and we finished dead last in accordance to Opta's prediction (they also had us finishing dead last in Bulut's first season).

Even though they didn't play for us anymore, losing Whittingham and Bamba was also a massive hit to club, fan and player morale. We really needed this season, and I'm grateful for BBM for giving us it. I want to see him succeed, because of how great he has been earlier this season.

Warnock arrested a decline in the Championship which had started after our relegation in 2013. At the heart of this were four superb free transfer signings (Bamba, Holiet, Etheridge and Mendez-Laing) and him being the only manager to get Ken Zohore to play to his potential during his time in the UK. Warnock did superbly to get us promoted, but the signs of the weakness that was to undo a lot of his good work was there in the summer or 2017 (the time when we signed Etheridge and Mendez-Laing) when he spent what was a big sum o by the club’s standards of the time on Lee Tomlin and then virtually ignored him for close to two and a half seasons.

Having arrested a decline in his early years at the club, Warnock was then a prime mover in creating another one with his disastrous signings in the transfer window in the summer of 2019 following our relegation. Having provided a preview of how poor he was when given what was serious money to spend by Cardiff City standards with his recruitment of Gary Madine, Warnock wasted the relegation parachute payments by putting together a squad which was going nowhere under him and playing dull football as well. The managers that followed Warnock were all failures apart from Neil Harris maybe who did get us to the Play Offs, but they were all hindered to some degree by the transfer dealings of Warnock whenever he was given large sums of money to spend.

[North Cardiff Blue]

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Warnock arrested a decline in the Championship which had started after our relegation in 2013. At the heart of this were four superb free transfer signings (Bamba, Holiet, Etheridge and Mendez-Laing) and him being the only manager to get Ken Zohore to play to his potential during his time in the UK. Warnock did superbly to get us promoted, but the signs of the weakness that was to undo a lot of his good work was there in the summer or 2017 (the time when we signed Etheridge and Mendez-Laing) when he spent what was a big sum o by the club’s standards of the time on Lee Tomlin and then virtually ignored him for close to two and a half seasons.

Having arrested a decline in his early years at the club, Warnock was then a prime mover in creating another one with his disastrous signings in the transfer window in the summer of 2019 following our relegation. Having provided a preview of how poor he was when given what was serious money to spend by Cardiff City standards with his recruitment of Gary Madine, Warnock wasted the relegation parachute payments by putting together a squad which was going nowhere under him and playing dull football as well. The managers that followed Warnock were all failures apart from Neil Harris maybe who did get us to the Play Offs, but they were all hindered to some degree by the transfer dealings of Warnock whenever he was given large sums of money to spend.

We'd have stayed up if Sala hadn't taken that flight.

[North Cardiff Blue]

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That Warnock promotion season takes some beating though. I know that you're looking at it from a different angle, a more pure and sustainable perspective, but for sheer fun and a complete sense that we shouldn't have been where we were (and we shouldn't have been) with the players at our disposal, then it's the Warnock promotion. So much of it wrong if we scratch the surface, and i do believe that Warnock was the start of the demise, he had no plan. It was careless and we all knew that it would blow up, but i loved it.

Agreed, this one is cracking too :thumbup: