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  • The enigma that is Rubin Colwill

    Some say we can’t play without him, some say, we can’t play with him ?

    I must admit, I prefer Joel in the team at the moment, different positions and styles, I know, but we seem faster and more mobile with Joel.

    What bed are you in ?

  • #2
    Re: The enigma that is Rubin Colwill

    We have more balance with EITHER him or Kellyman up front. Trying to shoehorn them both in isn’t working

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    • #3
      Re: The enigma that is Rubin Colwill

      It's not necessarily the players but the way they are being asked to play. In the first half especially yesterday Kellyman, Colwill and Robertson were stood alongside centre backs with their backs to goal barely moving leaving midfield pretty empty. Had some of them dropped a bit deeper they might have been able to influence the play whilst facing the opposition goal.

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      • #4
        Re: The enigma that is Rubin Colwill

        At the moment Kellyman and Rubin doesn't seem to be working . When Salech is back it will give us far more options to change the course of games . Tanner needs a rest and Kellyman may have to play from the wing . I feel for all the inconsistencies Rubin is the player we need to build the team around . Before his injury he was excellent . All opposition fans really appreciate him . We seem to focus on his weaknesses .

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        • #5
          Re: The enigma that is Rubin Colwill

          100% behind him.

          What's not working is Kellyman as a striker.

          They are probably both better as central attacking midfielders. If there's a choice id pick Rubin. But I think they both can play together.

          I agree Joel Colwill needs to play. Why the feck he has thought Turnbull was a better option from the bench the last 2 games is behond me.

          For the Peterborough away game id be resting Robertson and playing Joel Colwill alongside Wintle with Rubin attacking midfielder.

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          • #6
            Re: The enigma that is Rubin Colwill

            Thought Rubin has put in some good performances since returning. At Exeter just over a week ago he looked head and shoulders above anyone on the pitch.

            I get the balance has to be there but I don't see how not playing our better players helps in most situations.

            Saturday for example we are playing a team that retreats to its defensive third and gets in position quickly, as good a player as Joel I don't get any argument for him over Rubin in those matches.

            We had all the ball, we were rarely having to defend, I don't see how his energy and the qualities he brings unlocks that defence better than Rubin could.

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            • #7
              Re: The enigma that is Rubin Colwill

              our dismal run has coincided with Joel being left out of our starting 11. Joel for me.

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              • #8
                Re: The enigma that is Rubin Colwill

                Originally posted by Trigger View Post
                Thought Rubin has put in some good performances since returning. At Exeter just over a week ago he looked head and shoulders above anyone on the pitch.

                I get the balance has to be there but I don't see how not playing our better players helps in most situations.

                Saturday for example we are playing a team that retreats to its defensive third and gets in position quickly, as good a player as Joel I don't get any argument for him over Rubin in those matches.

                We had all the ball, we were rarely having to defend, I don't see how his energy and the qualities he brings unlocks that defence better than Rubin could.
                who else do we have that carries the ball direct from one box to the other, putting teams on the backfoot?

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                • #9
                  Re: The enigma that is Rubin Colwill

                  Rubin is such a talent, frustrating on times, but nonetheless talented. For myself he has to be in the starting 11 but then again so does Joel.
                  For myself assuming Salech is back, I wouldnt start Kellyman or Turnbull
                  The manager has to balance the side with the midfield

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                  • #10
                    Re: The enigma that is Rubin Colwill

                    Originally posted by Feedback View Post
                    who else do we have that carries the ball direct from one box to the other, putting teams on the backfoot?
                    It wasn't a box to box game though. We were mostly camped in their half with our cbs in midfield. The bulk of our passes were actually in the blackpool half.

                    We have those more open matches and Joel at times has looked fantastic, I'm just not sure this was that type of match.

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                    • #11
                      Re: The enigma that is Rubin Colwill

                      Since Salech got injured, our most effective and dynamic midfield unit has been Colwill Jnr, Robertson and Wintle, and I think the results back that up.

                      The question then becomes who to play as the false nine or whatever they call it these days. For me, it should be Kellyman or Colwill Snr, and I would also consider Robinson for that role on occasions.

                      Kellyman just shouldn't play out wide. He's not suited to that role. Tanner, Willock, Ashford and Davies (when he's fit) are.

                      Players need to be adaptable, but I don't agree with managers simply selecting their most skilful players at the same time for the sake of it, and that's what BBM has done on a few occasions recently with Colwill Snr and Kellyman. Teams become unbalanced that way.

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                      • #12
                        Re: The enigma that is Rubin Colwill

                        Rubin is a talented play maker that has the experience of playing a hundred odd games. I would tend to play him in midfield as much as possible.

                        No player can be outstanding every game they play, especially creative types like Rubin, who take risks, and one where fans are expecting them to influence games.

                        Joel is still making his way, but he makes mistakes as well as Rubin, but because he is still making his way and maybe doesnÂ’t take as many creative risks, he might be considered more a consistent player.

                        As another poster has pointed out, Joel can drive the ball forward with pace in midfield and that is something that we have not really seen since maybe Gunnarson and Mutch.

                        I would like to see both of them play, and as Joel gets more experience, I can see it happening more frequently.

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                        • #13
                          Re: The enigma that is Rubin Colwill

                          Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                          Kellyman just shouldn't play out wide. He's not suited to that role. Tanner, Willock, Ashford and Davies (when he's fit) are.
                          Neither Ashford or Davies are true wingers - both are strikers, number 10s, that have been adapted to play on the wing. Both would benefit from playing off the shoulder of a main striker (like Salech), but at the moment, BBM doesn’t play that system.

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                          • #14
                            Re: The enigma that is Rubin Colwill

                            Rubin just wasn't getting the ball on Saturday, everything was being played down the wings, it was is if he was told to stay in the box rather than come deep and get the ball.

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                            • #15
                              Re: The enigma that is Rubin Colwill

                              The gaping hole in the team is the absence of a centre forward / someone who can be effective in the opposition's penalty box and wingers who can efficiently supply them.

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