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Empty words though to a degree apart from the 'don't sack Harris' message
We've cried out to go away from route one football. We start on a bumpy road away and then we don't like the bumps.
We've cried out to use our youth, and then complain when our youth aren't at a certain standard.
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How would you describe the football currently being played?Originally posted by WJ99mobile View PostEmpty words though to a degree apart from the 'don't sack Harris' message
We've cried out to go away from route one football. We start on a bumpy road away and then we don't like the bumps.
We've cried out to use our youth, and then complain when our youth aren't at a certain standard.
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We are on a bumpy road away from route one football by employing a manager who has only ever played route one football?
I don't know about bumpy but it is long if that is the way we are going about travelling in our new direction.
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Harris' problem we aren't good enough to play football and he's not good enough to Warnock it (as it happens, neither was Warnock).Originally posted by WJ99mobile View PostEmpty words though to a degree apart from the 'don't sack Harris' message
We've cried out to go away from route one football. We start on a bumpy road away and then we don't like the bumps.
We've cried out to use our youth, and then complain when our youth aren't at a certain standard.
The fans want success but I think if someone comes in and says "this is a project and it will take time", someone like Paul Abantonado will write columns about how they lack ambition and how they should do more with the "extremely talented squad" we have. He's still writing that tosh today. The squad is absolute garbage.
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I don't think that fans want success, progress and a plan would do me. I don't want to go up playing shit non sustainable football then stagger around the premier league like a drunk looking for the exit door. I'd happily spend another five seasons at this level or lower if it meant that the club were moving towards something positive.Originally posted by Pedro de la Rosa View PostHarris' problem we aren't good enough to play football and he's not good enough to Warnock it (as it happens, neither was Warnock).
The fans want success but I think if someone comes in and says "this is a project and it will take time", someone like Paul Abantonado will write columns about how they lack ambition and how they should do more with the "extremely talented squad" we have. He's still writing that tosh today. The squad is absolute garbage.
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I think we've got a window to do so, we're not going to have fans in for 6 months and only a fool thinks we can get top 6 now. I'm not sure if I want us to beat Rotherham, it's only delaying the inevitable.Originally posted by Tuerto View PostI don't think that fans want success, progress and a plan would do me. I don't want to go up playing shit non sustainable football then stagger around the premier league like a drunk looking for the exit door. I'd happily spend another five seasons at this level or lower if it meant that the club were moving towards something positive.
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There has to be a response at rotherham. My biggest concern isn't the style of play, that's gone, not happening. The worrying aspect is the lack of character and belief.Originally posted by Pedro de la Rosa View PostI think we've got a window to do so, we're not going to have fans in for 6 months and only a fool thinks we can get top 6 now. I'm not sure if I want us to beat Rotherham, it's only delaying the inevitable.
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The response happened against Luton, sadly it was short term. I just don't see the point in Harris but JR does make a good point, if we have to pay millions to sack Harris, we might be up a creek without a paddle.Originally posted by Tuerto View PostThere has to be a response at rotherham. My biggest concern isn't the style of play, that's gone, not happening. The worrying aspect is the lack of character and belief.
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I don't think it would be millions, but whatever it is, we can't afford it. Harris needs a big response against Rotherham or he's gone in my opinion.Originally posted by Pedro de la Rosa View PostThe response happened against Luton, sadly it was short term. I just don't see the point in Harris but JR does make a good point, if we have to pay millions to sack Harris, we might be up a creek without a paddle.
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A response or a result? A win looks unlikely seeing as we've just added our captain and best defender to the list of injuries. Are you just setting the trap so you can call for his head because results are unlikely to improve until after we've played Norwich again on the 16th.Originally posted by Tuerto View PostI don't think it would be millions, but whatever it is, we can't afford it. Harris needs a big response against Rotherham or he's gone in my opinion.
I would like to know which of Harris' transfers people wouldn't have signed off on. If they agree with each of the signings then what would they have changed up until this point? A lot of the criticism is things which have developed over past 10 years and any manager would have faced much the same, unless you bring in Warnock with a moustache but then we're back to fire-fighting and short-termism which just kicks issues down the road. Even if we get relegated things are unlikely to change too much next year because we'd have at best the same budget so the same players knocking around. None of us are happy with where we are currently but a lot of the criticism on here, in my opinion, isn't based in realism.
Blake's point is a fair one: assessment of the clubs position should be done holistically.
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The fact that you believe a win looks unlikely against a side who are second from bottom of the table, who are struggling to field a team because of the virus and who have lost seven of their last nine matches (winning just one) speaks volumes. You've suggested Tuerto may be setting a trap for Harris, but it looks to me like you're already making excuses for him.Originally posted by surge View PostA response or a result? A win looks unlikely seeing as we've just added our captain and best defender to the list of injuries. Are you just setting the trap so you can call for his head because results are unlikely to improve until after we've played Norwich again on the 16th.
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I don't think that you've read anything that i've posted, i've not once asked for Harris to be sacked. I've been critical of the style of play and now the basic essentials when things aren't working, that's all, and i reckon that i've been fair and constructive, not abusive or biased, 'setting a trap'? what do you think this is? I'm simply giving my opinion on what i see in front of me, that's it. I don't think it's complicated or calculated. If Harris turns things around and we start showing progress then i'll say so. I'm not one for digging my heels in like some of the dick heads on this forum.Originally posted by surge View PostA response or a result? A win looks unlikely seeing as we've just added our captain and best defender to the list of injuries. Are you just setting the trap so you can call for his head because results are unlikely to improve until after we've played Norwich again on the 16th.
I would like to know which of Harris' transfers people wouldn't have signed off on. If they agree with each of the signings then what would they have changed up until this point? A lot of the criticism is things which have developed over past 10 years and any manager would have faced much the same, unless you bring in Warnock with a moustache but then we're back to fire-fighting and short-termism which just kicks issues down the road. Even if we get relegated things are unlikely to change too much next year because we'd have at best the same budget so the same players knocking around. None of us are happy with where we are currently but a lot of the criticism on here, in my opinion, isn't based in realism.
Blake's point is a fair one: assessment of the clubs position should be done holistically.
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Set a trap :hehe: like it means that much :hehe:Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View PostThe fact that you believe a win looks unlikely against a side who are second from bottom of the table, who are struggling to field a team because of the virus and who have lost seven of their last nine matches (winning just one) speaks volumes. You've suggested Tuerto may be setting a trap for Harris, but it looks to me like you're already making excuses for him.
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