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  • #31
    Re: UEFA- It has to be said

    Originally posted by lardy View Post
    What would the reaction be?
    Play it later that night once they know he's pretty muck OK I guess.. like the Danish players did.

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    • #32
      Re: UEFA- It has to be said

      Originally posted by Des Parrot View Post
      I didn’t see the incident last night so can’t comment on the specifics but I am surprised at the reaction.

      I’ve been involved in motorcycle racing for 60 years, in that time 201 riders have been killed on the Isle of Man, 22 of whom have been friends or very close friends. If I add in other UK & Irish tracks the number probably reaches 30 friends. I’ve seen horrendous & fatal accidents.

      15 or 30 minutes later everyone is back racing.

      I guess people are going to say it’s a shite comparison but for me it is the measure by which I can’t understand the fuss about this incident.
      I think today's 'elite' professional footballers are not cut from the same cloth as TT riders. The Danish and Finnish players have been provided with counselling, though having seen a colleague collapse and then receive expert medical treatment and recover consciousness would be a rather uplifting experience in my opinion..

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      • #33
        Re: UEFA- It has to be said

        Originally posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
        I think today's 'elite' professional footballers are not cut from the same cloth as TT riders. The Danish and Finnish players have been provided with counselling, though having seen a colleague collapse and then receive expert medical treatment and recover consciousness would be a rather uplifting experience in my opinion..
        You know he was actually dead on the pitch at one point, don't you?

        Of all the things to play the 'footballers today are softies' card on, this one is ridiculous.

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        • #34
          Re: UEFA- It has to be said

          Originally posted by lardy View Post
          You know he was actually dead on the pitch at one point, don't you?

          Of all the things to play the 'footballers today are softies' card on, this one is ridiculous.
          But they are though. Most live in a protective bubble. sheltered from the great unwashed. They can't even manage their own 'twitter' accounts, often employing someone else to post all those 'great performance from the lads' messages for them.

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          • #35
            Re: UEFA- It has to be said

            Originally posted by lardy View Post
            What would the reaction be?
            The reaction would have been ff sake cut us some slack

            The Denmark players were given a loaded gun to play Russian Roulette with

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            • #36
              Re: UEFA- It has to be said

              Originally posted by Freitag 4.17 View Post
              Play it later that night once they know he's pretty muck OK I guess.. like the Danish players did.
              witnessing the event clearly had an effect on their performance and the game should have been delayed

              Imagine your old man collapsing in front of you

              You are supposed to be playing a gig in your local pub

              The pub says either get on with the gig in an hour or play tomorrow

              😒

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              • #37
                Re: UEFA- It has to be said

                Originally posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
                But they are though. Most live in a protective bubble. sheltered from the great unwashed. They can't even manage their own 'twitter' accounts, often employing someone else to post all those 'great performance from the lads' messages for them.

                I feel like I've stumbled on to the Mailonline by mistake. Do you think they don't know how to operate twitter?

                Their social media accounts are used as marketing tools. It's not my kind of thing, following someone like Harry Kane who has exactly that sort of message. I can't imagine enjoying reading the updates. Over 3 million people do follow him, for whatever reason.

                But he doesn't have someone to write it because he's pampered and lives in a bubble, it's because they are for 'building the brand' and eventually selling merchandise.

                Quite what the link between this and being offered counselling after having had the world watching you watching someone nearly die is, I don't know...

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                • #38
                  Re: UEFA- It has to be said

                  Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                  The reaction would have been ff sake cut us some slack

                  The Denmark players were given a loaded gun to play Russian Roulette with
                  Yeah, I'm sure the Danish forums are full of their fans saying the same thing, especially having lost the game.

                  But they can't just mull it over for a while and then try to squeeze the game in when they can. As said on here, the final group games have to kick off at the same time, for a start. And then, whoever qualifies from this postponed game would have a much shorter recovery time before the knockouts and be at a disadvantage. And organising all the stadium workers/media plus teams and backroom staff in a pandemic and keeping everyone as safe as they can from covid must be a nightmare even with months to prepare, let alone at short notice.

                  That's the reality.

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                  • #39
                    Re: UEFA- It has to be said

                    Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                    witnessing the event clearly had an effect on their performance and the game should have been delayed

                    Imagine your old man collapsing in front of you

                    You are supposed to be playing a gig in your local pub

                    The pub says either get on with the gig in an hour or play tomorrow

                    ��
                    It's not on the scale of a gig at the local pub, is it?

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                    • #40
                      Re: UEFA- It has to be said

                      It would be interesting to see whether and of the Danish players, officials or fans have objected to the time scales offered by uefa. As far as I can see, they haven't.

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                      • #41
                        Re: UEFA- It has to be said

                        From what I gather they chose to play it the same day. You would think even the next day would have given them some time to process things and have a pre match preparation etc but they chose the same day themselves.

                        It's probably tough to organise and rearrange these matches at the best of times let alone during a pandemic.

                        Question for uefa I suppose is what would they have done if the outcome was worse, they must have some sort of planning in place.

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                        • #42
                          Re: UEFA- It has to be said

                          One option would have been to play it 24 hours later. If that was not offered because television scheduling took priority then I think that UEFA fell short in their treatment of the teams, particularly the Danes.

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                          • #43
                            Re: UEFA- It has to be said

                            Originally posted by lardy View Post
                            Yeah, I'm sure the Danish forums are full of their fans saying the same thing, especially having lost the game.

                            But they can't just mull it over for a while and then try to squeeze the game in when they can. As said on here, the final group games have to kick off at the same time, for a start. And then, whoever qualifies from this postponed game would have a much shorter recovery time before the knockouts and be at a disadvantage. And organising all the stadium workers/media plus teams and backroom staff in a pandemic and keeping everyone as safe as they can from covid must be a nightmare even with months to prepare, let alone at short notice.

                            That's the reality.
                            Come on Lardy, let's not allow reality to get in the way of a good old rant about UEFA. They're corrupt, money-grabbing bastards. Distasteful, insensitive, etc. Just plain evil, basically.

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                            • #44
                              Re: UEFA- It has to be said

                              Originally posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
                              One option would have been to play it 24 hours later. If that was not offered because television scheduling took priority then I think that UEFA fell short in their treatment of the teams, particularly the Danes.
                              Wasn't that one of the options? Correct me if I'm wrong.

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                              • #45
                                Re: UEFA- It has to be said

                                Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                                witnessing the event clearly had an effect on their performance and the game should have been delayed

                                Imagine your old man collapsing in front of you

                                You are supposed to be playing a gig in your local pub

                                The pub says either get on with the gig in an hour or play tomorrow

                                😒
                                A similar thing happened to me when I was 11. I lost a grandmother early one Saturday morning and I had a charity gig booked that evening to raise money for a scanner at POW, Bridgend.

                                I did the gig just out of a desire to help raise some funds. From what I recall, once I started playing, I didn't really think of much else other than the job in hand.

                                That night made £133. I was chuffed with that at my age.

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