Working from Home.

[Baloo]

Re: Working from Home.

The time I'm most productive in the office is when I book myself into a meeting room and work on my own. Just find the open working environment too distracting otherwise to really get my head-down. Possibly because I've worked from home for part of the week for years now.

There are of course other good reasons to go into the office besides work so wouldn't really want to work from home permanently.

[Allez Allez Allez]

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when i used to do maintenance and fire prevention work in Offices ( a few years in total ) I was a little envious of the office work environment, a real micro-world, a snapshot of life, people from different backgrounds all slung into a melting pot, the laughs, flirting, bullying etc etc I worked at cardiff city hall for 18 months and got invited to Christmas parties ( Yes i went and enjoyed them ) spent some time with some city lads ( who i had seen about, but didnt really know them, i know they used to post on here ) Office looked a decent place to work

I guess if you are a social type of person, you would be itching to get back to the office , i can see how it would have been missed

another issue with WFH must be training people, all them Jnr Office types learn from watching people do what they do, thats not going to happen when you WFH

Seriously? A lot of office work is mundane and, in all honesty, could be automated. You can get kids doing most of the stuff that others do within a day or two. Like you say, socially an office is a great place to be. Unfortunately, that means that for people who show up to do the work and go home, they end up getting put upon while others take the piss. For most teams you have one worker to 3 shirkers.

[Allez Allez Allez]

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I think that is total bullshit mate

What is? All of it? Some of it? What are you basing it on? You wouldn't just be here looking for an argument would you?

[Allez Allez Allez]

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You listen to my boring bullshit often enough and by choice too!

Earlier today I thought of another waste of time for people who work in offices. I was walking through the Ty Glas Industrial Estate in Llanishen and witnessed loads of people shuffling out of their offices onto the courtyard. It was a fire drill! Not a waste of time if it saves someone’s life of course, but in truth they’re almost always a waste of time and they can drag on for ages.

I’ve worked in our office throughout the pandemic and wouldn’t want to work at home, doesn’t suit me as an individual, but it’s been blatantly obvious since March 2020 that those who are productive in the office are also productive at home, and vice versa.

Ah, yes. The fire drill. The smokers light up as soon as they hit the fresh air. A free smoke break. Then, thirty minutes later, back into the office, and everyone is queuing up at the coffee machine. Can waste a good afternoon on a fire break. Always called in nice weather too.

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What is? All of it? Some of it? What are you basing it on? You wouldn't just be here looking for an argument would you?

No, I'll leave that to you.
I disbelieve what you say about your circumstances because the change so often, I don't believe you would treat people working for you as you say you would in the event of last minute completion, bullshit.because if you did you'd be out of work yourself very quickly. It is rhetoric, look how efficient and ruthless I am with my colleagues.

Oh, and Parkinson's 1st law of work is true. It has been proven.I've done it myself.

[Allez Allez Allez]

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No, I'll leave that to you.
I disbelieve what you say about your circumstances because the change so often, I don't believe you would treat people working for you as you say you would in the event of last minute completion, bullshit.because if you did you'd be out of work yourself very quickly. It is rhetoric, look how efficient and ruthless I am with my colleagues.

Oh, and Parkinson's 1st law of work is true. It has been proven.I've done it myself.

What do you mean "treat people a I say I would"? I haven't mistreated anyone. I have, however, voiced my disapproval when people have pissed around and left a project to the last minute. That isn't me being ruthless, that is me saying "thanks for putting me/my team under stress because of poor organisation".

And whether or not you leave things to the last minute is not proof that "Parkinson's first law" is true in every case. It is true in cases where people take the piss. It is true in cases where projects are mismanaged. Like I said, if I get a request to do something immediately because the deadline is in 5 minutes, and it isn't my fault then I'll make it known it isn't my fault. Oddly enough, I haven't been sacked once. I've walked out of places, true, but I've usually done that knowing I am walking into something better.

[J R Hartley]

Re: Working from Home.

No, I'll leave that to you.
I disbelieve what you say about your circumstances because the change so often, I don't believe you would treat people working for you as you say you would in the event of last minute completion, bullshit.because if you did you'd be out of work yourself very quickly. It is rhetoric, look how efficient and ruthless I am with my colleagues.

Oh, and Parkinson's 1st law of work is true. It has been proven.I've done it myself.

Walter Mitty springs to mind

[Tuerto]

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You listen to my boring bullshit often enough and by choice too!

Earlier today I thought of another waste of time for people who work in offices. I was walking through the Ty Glas Industrial Estate in Llanishen and witnessed loads of people shuffling out of their offices onto the courtyard. It was a fire drill! Not a waste of time if it saves someone’s life of course, but in truth they’re almost always a waste of time and they can drag on for ages.

I’ve worked in our office throughout the pandemic and wouldn’t want to work at home, doesn’t suit me as an individual, but it’s been blatantly obvious since March 2020 that those who are productive in the office are also productive at home, and vice versa.

Yeah, but at least your 'Bullshit' is interesting, and by the end of it, you've probably offended some blowhard in the office I hate having a set time to work in, My philosophy is get the job done as quickly as possible and then get the **** out of there. I appreciate that can't be the case for everyone. I call it self preservation, especially in a physically demanding job. As soon as i've earned what i wont out of the day, i'm off, or tools are put away.

[Allez Allez Allez]

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Walter Mitty springs to mind

What happened with your job in the end Hartley? Did you tell the owner where to go, or are you still his little lap dog?

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What happened with your job in the end Hartley? Did you tell the owner where to go, or are you still his little lap dog?

For someone who until lately have barely posted on here you are an offensive little git aren't you?
Reminds me so much of another poster, or should that be posterS?

[Allez Allez Allez]

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For someone who until lately have barely posted on here you are an offensive little git aren't you?
Reminds me so much of another poster, or should that be posterS?

I'm barely posting on here now(!) Just on this one subject where the OP is talking bollocks and pointing out real-world examples of why he is talking bollocks. Funny thing is, you've stopped talking about the subject of the post for some reason.

As for being offensive, this board is full of people who are offended by something. Whether it be the non-creation of new roads, people innovatively working from home or something else. Which, to me, suggests that there are plenty of offensive little gits getting plenty of offended people offended. Are you a snowflake?

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I'm barely posting on here now(!) Just on this one subject where the OP is talking bollocks and pointing out real-world examples of why he is talking bollocks. Funny thing is, you've stopped talking about the subject of the post for some reason.

As for being offensive, this board is full of people who are offended by something. Whether it be the non-creation of new roads, people innovatively working from home or something else. Which, to me, suggests that there are plenty of offensive little gits getting plenty of offended people offended. Are you a snowflake?

Snowfake? lol you should know what I am you have trolled enough looking for anything about me. Now go away and come back using one of your other names, and try to keep it in character.

[Allez Allez Allez]

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Snowfake? lol you should know what I am you have trolled enough looking for anything about me. Now go away and come back using one of your other names, and try to keep it in character.

Dear me, you do witter on, this has nothing to do with the subject brought up in the OP.

However, keeping it on subject.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57517669

A 2 year old company, valued at £4bn, employing 500, and not one of them works in an office.

[JamesWales]

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I absolutely hate working from home. Its a mental health nightmare for so many, especially those in more difficult home environments

[Rjk]

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I absolutely hate working from home. Its a mental health nightmare for so many, especially those in more difficult home environments

yeah it isn't for everyone. Hopefully we will see greater flexibility in the future, so that employees can work in a way that best suits them.

Many years ago (like 10) I had a bee in my bonnet on this topic.

I emailed whoever was the Welsh Assembly minister for business at the time and prattled on about it.

I suggested that if Welsh businesses were encouraged, or forced to allow home working in wales where appropriate 2 or 3 days a week, possibly through financial incentives then the rewards for Wales would be manifold.

Less commuting - less congestion, less pollution, less wasted time, less wear and tear on the roads, less new roads required, less money leaving the country to oil producing nations every time you fill up. Potentially less childcare required. People not having to commute every day would also mean people would be more interested in living in the upper valleys, where housing is cheaper rejuvenating those areas, buying their lunches locally instead of near the office in Cardiff, Newport or Swansea.

I also suggested if Wales led the way on this then it might encourage local companies to develop some of the software solutions that would help with off site working.
A few years later the company Zoom was founded and now has a value of $100 bn.
Ok its unlikely that a welsh Zoom would have had as much traction, but you never know.

I wasn't expecting much response, but I jut got a one line answer saying that they can't offer tax incentives to companies as it isn't devolved.