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  • #61
    Re: Spare a thought for Ryan Giggs

    Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    I agree, time was Giggs supporters could point to his medal collection as proof of being the better of the two, but I heard Nathan Blake reading out what Bale had won at Real Madrid and it no longer applies - he's won four Champions League winners medals and with at least of them, he had a major influence in deciding the outcome of the Final. Given Bale's attitude to his home country as well, he has to be, possibly, the best Wales player ever and definitely above Giggs.
    Where does the great John Charles sit in all this debate

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    • #62
      Re: Spare a thought for Ryan Giggs

      Originally posted by Harry Paget Flashman View Post
      Anthony Joshua seems to do alright.
      Genuinely not sure what you're getting at here? Has Joshua hit women or something?

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      • #63
        Re: Spare a thought for Ryan Giggs

        Originally posted by Cleve van Leef View Post
        Has Bellamy abused women? Nothing has been said or written regarding that, he supposedly bullied youngsters, but that was brought against him apparently by parent who didn’t like his son being dropped from the team. Nothing actually proved.
        Bellamy was once alleged to have grabbed a woman by the throat in a city centre night club. Memory serves me well he was found ‘not guilty’.

        Same thing could happen to Giggs.

        Like I said, playing devils advocate.

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        • #64
          Re: Spare a thought for Ryan Giggs

          Originally posted by J R Hartley View Post
          Giggs had loads of problems with his hamstrings.
          Thought that would just pop up before Wales games…..

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          • #65
            Re: Spare a thought for Ryan Giggs

            Originally posted by Jordi Culé View Post
            Bellamy was once alleged to have grabbed a woman by the throat in a city centre night club. Memory serves me well he was found ‘not guilty’.

            Same thing could happen to Giggs.

            Like I said, playing devils advocate.
            If it wasn't clear from my original comment , what I said is dependent on him being found guilty of abusing his wife.

            Regarding the affair with his brother's wife, that type of thing doesn't really concern me because adultery , no matter what the circumstances, is not a criminal offence. It is a private issue and I don't think this type of info should really be in the public domain. If everyone were judged on the same criteria in the tabloid media, very few of us would escape unblemished.

            I take your point regarding innocence until proven guilty, if that was the original point you were making...... I'm not sure it was though.

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            • #66
              Re: Spare a thought for Ryan Giggs

              Originally posted by goats View Post
              Thought that would just pop up before Wales games…..
              His hamstring was nicknamed Fergie.

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              • #67
                Re: Spare a thought for Ryan Giggs

                Originally posted by Divine Wright View Post
                If it wasn't clear from my original comment , what I said is dependent on him being found guilty of abusing his wife.

                Regarding the affair with his brother's wife, that type of thing doesn't really concern me because adultery , no matter what the circumstances, is not a criminal offence. It is a private issue and I don't think this type of info should really be in the public domain. If everyone were judged on the same criteria in the tabloid media, very few of us would escape unblemished.

                I take your point regarding innocence until proven guilty, if that was the original point you were making...... I'm not sure it was though.
                My playing at being 'devils advocate' wasn't particularly directed at you personally but just put out there for consideration.

                The point of 'innocence until proven guilty' is one of the points, amongst others. I think it's quite interesting that some individuals get mullered on here whilst (perhaps) others are seen in a different light.

                Also many on here jumping to conclusions about his guilt.

                Ched Evans anyone?

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                • #68
                  Re: Spare a thought for Ryan Giggs

                  Originally posted by life on mars View Post
                  Where does the great John Charles sit in all this debate
                  As Bale's closest rival for the title of best ever Welsh player I'd say.

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                  • #69
                    Re: Spare a thought for Ryan Giggs

                    Originally posted by life on mars View Post
                    Where does the great John Charles sit in all this debate
                    Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                    As Bale's closest rival for the title of best ever Welsh player I'd say.

                    Na, that's Trevor Hockey (who remembers him)

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                    • #70
                      Re: Spare a thought for Ryan Giggs

                      Originally posted by BLUETIT View Post
                      Na, that's Trevor Hockey (who remembers him)
                      For a while held the title for wildest looks in British football.

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                      • #71
                        Re: Spare a thought for Ryan Giggs

                        Just spared another thought for Ryan Giggs , sorry didn't last long

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                        • #72
                          Re: Spare a thought for Ryan Giggs

                          Originally posted by BLUETIT View Post
                          Na, that's Trevor Hockey (who remembers him)
                          A man you'd not mess with was our Trevor

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                          • #73
                            Re: Spare a thought for Ryan Giggs

                            Wales unbeaten since Giggs left

                            Just like his wife

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                            • #74
                              Re: Spare a thought for Ryan Giggs

                              Originally posted by J R Hartley View Post
                              Giggs had loads of problems with his hamstrings.
                              Ladies and Gentlemen please book your united coach and match tickets , departing 0830 am , Cyfartha Castle toilets from Mr Hartley , heads of the valleys , United Welsh 😀 👍

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