i thought theses stopped estimate bills:shrug:
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I had an estimated electric bill from SSE a while ago. I called and asked them why as I have a smart meter and the answer was "Oh sorry, we didn't realise". I pay on direct debit so it made no real financial difference but it does mark a remarkable level of incompetency.Originally posted by poc View Posti thought theses stopped estimate bills:shrug:
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thanks that the reason i had them changed i was fed up of estimates and mobility issues was unable to read electric meter myself now i can get the readings from the internal display they wont let you change them on line not very smartOriginally posted by xsnaggle View PostI had an estimated electric bill from SSE a while ago. I called and asked them why as I have a smart meter and the answer was "Oh sorry, we didn't realise". I pay on direct debit so it made no real financial difference but it does mark a remarkable level of incompetency.
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A complete waste of our money. Expensive to install (we pay through our bills), dont have any significant impact on consumer behaviour (unless you want to do the ironing at 3.00am), SMETS 1 dont work if you change supplier, SMETS 2...trouble with signals to actually link them up to the billing system and there will be a lot of plastic/electronics hits to recycle when in room displays get dumped. Not good for climate change on terms of their production/installation/recycling. Government assumptions about how smart meters would change behaviour/save energy are way off the mark. Better off making basic changes like LED lightbulbs/insulation/replacing white goods with energy efficient versions. Smart meters = shite, agreed. Avoid. Dont have one. More here for anyone interested:Originally posted by Former Labour leader View PostMust have stopped working or you've changed suppliers.
Been refusing them for years. Totally pile of shite.
In my second post on energy myths I addressed the myth that the energy price cap would save money for consumers. Another money-saving myth relates to smart meters, with politicians insisting that consumers will save money on their bills thanks to smart meters, while the press is scaring people into thinking that cooking
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cheers matey like i said i had them for ease of reading if i had to, not to try and save anything:xmasthumbup:Originally posted by IanD View PostA complete waste of our money. Expensive to install (we pay through our bills), dont have any significant impact on consumer behaviour (unless you want to do the ironing at 3.00am), SMETS 1 dont work if you change supplier, SMETS 2...trouble with signals to actually link them up to the billing system and there will be a lot of plastic/electronics hits to recycle when in room displays get dumped. Not good for climate change on terms of their production/installation/recycling. Government assumptions about how smart meters would change behaviour/save energy are way off the mark. Better off making basic changes like LED lightbulbs/insulation/replacing white goods with energy efficient versions. Smart meters = shite, agreed. Avoid. Dont have one. More here for anyone interested:
http://watt-logic.com/2018/08/20/myth-3/
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Originally posted by IanD View PostA complete waste of our money. Expensive to install (we pay through our bills), dont have any significant impact on consumer behaviour (unless you want to do the ironing at 3.00am), SMETS 1 dont work if you change supplier, SMETS 2...trouble with signals to actually link them up to the billing system and there will be a lot of plastic/electronics hits to recycle when in room displays get dumped. Not good for climate change on terms of their production/installation/recycling. Government assumptions about how smart meters would change behaviour/save energy are way off the mark. Better off making basic changes like LED lightbulbs/insulation/replacing white goods with energy efficient versions. Smart meters = shite, agreed. Avoid. Dont have one. More here for anyone interested:
http://watt-logic.com/2018/08/20/myth-3/
Totally agree :xmasthumbup:
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But that aside, can we take it you approve? :xmashehe:Originally posted by IanD View PostA complete waste of our money. Expensive to install (we pay through our bills), dont have any significant impact on consumer behaviour (unless you want to do the ironing at 3.00am), SMETS 1 dont work if you change supplier, SMETS 2...trouble with signals to actually link them up to the billing system and there will be a lot of plastic/electronics hits to recycle when in room displays get dumped. Not good for climate change on terms of their production/installation/recycling. Government assumptions about how smart meters would change behaviour/save energy are way off the mark. Better off making basic changes like LED lightbulbs/insulation/replacing white goods with energy efficient versions. Smart meters = shite, agreed. Avoid. Dont have one. More here for anyone interested:
http://watt-logic.com/2018/08/20/myth-3/
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I'm very polite the first/second/third time someone at SSE asks if I want a Smart Meter.....but my patience is wearing thin. Problem is, these energy companies have government targets to meet when it comes to installation, even though they know they are a waste of time/effort/our money.Originally posted by xsnaggle View PostBut that aside, can we take it you approve? :xmashehe:
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And if they don't meet them they will be fined and then our bills will go up. Its a no win.Originally posted by IanD View PostI'm very polite the first/second/third time someone at SSE asks if I want a Smart Meter.....but my patience is wearing thin. Problem is, these energy companies have government targets to meet when it comes to installation, even though they know they are a waste of time/effort/our money.
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Do people with smart meters go around their house turning everything off they're not using? Houses these days are so full of stuff that remains on standby, I just wonder how many people spend the time getting their consumption down as much as possible turning stuff off?
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Originally posted by IanD View PostA complete waste of our money. Expensive to install (we pay through our bills), dont have any significant impact on consumer behaviour (unless you want to do the ironing at 3.00am), SMETS 1 dont work if you change supplier, SMETS 2...trouble with signals to actually link them up to the billing system and there will be a lot of plastic/electronics hits to recycle when in room displays get dumped. Not good for climate change on terms of their production/installation/recycling. Government assumptions about how smart meters would change behaviour/save energy are way off the mark. Better off making basic changes like LED lightbulbs/insulation/replacing white goods with energy efficient versions. Smart meters = shite, agreed. Avoid. Dont have one. More here for anyone interested:
http://watt-logic.com/2018/08/20/myth-3/
I had one at my previous property and I thought it was good. When I changed supplier, ok I had to submit meter readings every few months, but the software to monitor usage was still working. I sold the property to an uncle who just changed supplier and the smart meter is working again now (this wasn't the supplier I got the meter from).
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