Thanks Wales , Proud Of You

[MacAdder]

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Could have been a different game had we taken advantage of the 20 minute spell in the first half where we had them rattled.

We had to score first and had Bale taken his chance like their fella did, it could have been a different outcome albeit a backs to the wall and hit em on the break effort.

No shame in our performance, beaten by the better side who had a bit more quality and tactical nous, with just a little help from the man in the middle.

[Mario Miethig]

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Yes, we did well to qualify and we did well to get to the last 16, but that shouldn’t mean that they escape from any criticism though. I thought we were shocking today and made Denmark look better than what they are. I felt embarrassed watching that and Page showed his limitations.
We have a good group of youngsters though, so am quite optimistic about the future. Just need a decent manager to nurture that talent.

[Pearcey3]

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We have been totally shafted by UEFA in this competition, Let’s take some pride from the fact this is the fourth time we have reached the knock out stages of a major competition. Scotland haven’t managed it once. How many countries of our size have managed to do this?
I am very proud to support Wales. Our supporters are as passionate and compassionate as any in the world. Today was a bad day. So what? It does not undo the fabulous memories we have all shared over the past six or seven years.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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We have been totally shafted by UEFA in this competition, Let’s take some pride from the fact this is the fourth time we have reached the knock out stages of a major competition. Scotland haven’t managed it once. How many countries of our size have managed to do this?
I am very proud to support Wales. Our supporters are as passionate and compassionate as any in the world. Today was a bad day. So what? It does not undo the fabulous memories we have all shared over the past six or seven years.

I couldn't agree more

BBC News - Euro 2020 Wales v Denmark: Expats in Amsterdam form Red Army

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-57621196

Wales , innit

[Kind of Blue]

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Proud of these lot, can’t fault the effort. We’ve waited a long time to qualify for tournaments, I’ll take this type of disappointment over Bodin penalty near misses every day of the week.

We’ve been living through a halcyon period for us the last 8 years or so. Consistent top 20 in the world with a foray into the top 10 at points. I’ve tried to savour it whilst it lasts. The anomaly of Uruguay aside, not many countries our size get to this place let alone maintain it.

Few things conspired against us for this tournament. The Giggs situation couldn’t have helped in terms of our preparation. I do think a savvier tactician would have gotten more out of this squad for these games but we’ve limited resources and that was sadly the hand we got dealt.

The obscene imbalance where we had to criss cross Europe and travel the equivalent distance of Wales to Argentina whilst the Danes, for example, only had to contend with a comparatively short hop from Copenhagen to Amsterdam. This tournament and the time we’re living through condemned us to playing “away” games the entire time, a situation worse than our non-tournament away games over the last few years as we’ve regularly taken thousands.

And frustratingly, in a tournament where I think generally the refereeing has been of a good standard, we didn’t get the rub of the green with some decisions not going our way.

[the other bob wilson]

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Proud of these lot, can’t fault the effort. We’ve waited a long time to qualify for tournaments, I’ll take this type of disappointment over Bodin penalty near misses every day of the week.

We’ve been living through a halcyon period for us the last 8 years or so. Consistent top 20 in the world with a foray into the top 10 at points. I’ve tried to savour it whilst it lasts. The anomaly of Uruguay aside, not many countries our size get to this place let alone maintain it.

Few things conspired against us for this tournament. The Giggs situation couldn’t have helped in terms of our preparation. I do think a savvier tactician would have gotten more out of this squad for these games but we’ve limited resources and that was sadly the hand we got dealt.

The obscene imbalance where we had to criss cross Europe and travel the equivalent distance of Wales to Argentina whilst the Danes, for example, only had to contend with a comparatively short hop from Copenhagen to Amsterdam. This tournament and the time we’re living through condemned us to playing “away” games the entire time, a situation worse than our non-tournament away games over the last few years as we’ve regularly taken thousands.

And frustratingly, in a tournament where I think generally the refereeing has been of a good standard, we didn’t get the rub of the green with some decisions not going our way.

[surge]

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I don't think many would have had to deal with as much as we did both in the build-up and duration of the tournament:

- CEO departs
- Manager temporarily steps away due to front-page circumstances in his personal life
- 30 plus degrees in Baku, an away game in Baku, an away game in Rome, an away game in Amsterdam.
- Arguably a harsh sending off of Ampadu
- A ref who harshly books Moore and Rodon then takes no action when Moore fouled before they score their second. Harshly sends off Wilson too.

Despite this, and recognising we were second best yesterday and disappointingly let our frustrations show, we achieved with qualification from the group and the FAW did their best to make sure the whole of Wales was reached out to in order to again use a tournament to build future success.

Even in tough circumstances we might have been expected to beat Turkey, lose to Italy (currently 7th in the world) and Denmark (currently 10th in the world) so when looking back on the tournament I'll be focusing on the Switzerland game as a marker of our time in Euros 2020. Drawing against a side like Switzerland (13th in the world, reached tournament football in 7 of last 8 tournaments before this and qualified from group stages in 4 of those) shows how well we did and also sets out maybe not the the direct next step but the future goal to work to.

We come out of this tournament at a bit of a crossroads knowing that the squad has a higher floor than 2016 but a lower ceiling and not knowing which players will push that ceiling up again. Will need patience and good supportive crowd to help us knowing there is so much to play for over the next 9 months plus 2 day but yes, definitely proud of this team

[Sloop_Jon_Bee]

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I don't think many would have had to deal with as much as we did both in the build-up and duration of the tournament:

- CEO departs
- Manager temporarily steps away due to front-page circumstances in his personal life
- 30 plus degrees in Baku, an away game in Baku, an away game in Rome, an away game in Amsterdam.
- Arguably a harsh sending off of Ampadu
- A ref who harshly books Moore and Rodon then takes no action when Moore fouled before they score their second. Harshly sends off Wilson too.

Despite this, and recognising we were second best yesterday and disappointingly let our frustrations show, we achieved with qualification from the group and the FAW did their best to make sure the whole of Wales was reached out to in order to again use a tournament to build future success.

Even in tough circumstances we might have been expected to beat Turkey, lose to Italy (currently 7th in the world) and Denmark (currently 10th in the world) so when looking back on the tournament I'll be focusing on the Switzerland game as a marker of our time in Euros 2020. Drawing against a side like Switzerland (13th in the world, reached tournament football in 7 of last 8 tournaments before this and qualified from group stages in 4 of those) shows how well we did and also sets out maybe not the the direct next step but the future goal to work to.

We come out of this tournament at a bit of a crossroads knowing that the squad has a higher floor than 2016 but a lower ceiling and not knowing which players will push that ceiling up again. Will need patience and good supportive crowd to help us knowing there is so much to play for over the next 9 months plus 2 day but yes, definitely proud of this team

[Sloop_Jon_Bee]

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Proud of these lot, can’t fault the effort. We’ve waited a long time to qualify for tournaments, I’ll take this type of disappointment over Bodin penalty near misses every day of the week.

We’ve been living through a halcyon period for us the last 8 years or so. Consistent top 20 in the world with a foray into the top 10 at points. I’ve tried to savour it whilst it lasts. The anomaly of Uruguay aside, not many countries our size get to this place let alone maintain it.

Few things conspired against us for this tournament. The Giggs situation couldn’t have helped in terms of our preparation. I do think a savvier tactician would have gotten more out of this squad for these games but we’ve limited resources and that was sadly the hand we got dealt.

The obscene imbalance where we had to criss cross Europe and travel the equivalent distance of Wales to Argentina whilst the Danes, for example, only had to contend with a comparatively short hop from Copenhagen to Amsterdam. This tournament and the time we’re living through condemned us to playing “away” games the entire time, a situation worse than our non-tournament away games over the last few years as we’ve regularly taken thousands.

And frustratingly, in a tournament where I think generally the refereeing has been of a good standard, we didn’t get the rub of the green with some decisions not going our way.

Well said.
Spedger

[Cleve van Leef]

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Proud of these lot, can’t fault the effort. We’ve waited a long time to qualify for tournaments, I’ll take this type of disappointment over Bodin penalty near misses every day of the week.

We’ve been living through a halcyon period for us the last 8 years or so. Consistent top 20 in the world with a foray into the top 10 at points. I’ve tried to savour it whilst it lasts. The anomaly of Uruguay aside, not many countries our size get to this place let alone maintain it.

Few things conspired against us for this tournament. The Giggs situation couldn’t have helped in terms of our preparation. I do think a savvier tactician would have gotten more out of this squad for these games but we’ve limited resources and that was sadly the hand we got dealt.

The obscene imbalance where we had to criss cross Europe and travel the equivalent distance of Wales to Argentina whilst the Danes, for example, only had to contend with a comparatively short hop from Copenhagen to Amsterdam. This tournament and the time we’re living through condemned us to playing “away” games the entire time, a situation worse than our non-tournament away games over the last few years as we’ve regularly taken thousands.

And frustratingly, in a tournament where I think generally the refereeing has been of a good standard, we didn’t get the rub of the green with some decisions not going our way.

Well said, that man.

[jon1959]

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Proud of these lot, can’t fault the effort. We’ve waited a long time to qualify for tournaments, I’ll take this type of disappointment over Bodin penalty near misses every day of the week.

We’ve been living through a halcyon period for us the last 8 years or so. Consistent top 20 in the world with a foray into the top 10 at points. I’ve tried to savour it whilst it lasts. The anomaly of Uruguay aside, not many countries our size get to this place let alone maintain it.

Few things conspired against us for this tournament. The Giggs situation couldn’t have helped in terms of our preparation. I do think a savvier tactician would have gotten more out of this squad for these games but we’ve limited resources and that was sadly the hand we got dealt.

The obscene imbalance where we had to criss cross Europe and travel the equivalent distance of Wales to Argentina whilst the Danes, for example, only had to contend with a comparatively short hop from Copenhagen to Amsterdam. This tournament and the time we’re living through condemned us to playing “away” games the entire time, a situation worse than our non-tournament away games over the last few years as we’ve regularly taken thousands.

And frustratingly, in a tournament where I think generally the refereeing has been of a good standard, we didn’t get the rub of the green with some decisions not going our way.

[SunderlandBluebird]

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Have found it strange some of the negativity to yesterday. Doing great to get there then to get out of a tough group where every side is in the top 30. (The only group to have that I think)

We didn’t play well yesterday but it happens. Everything went for Denmark, the world backing them, their fans taking over Amsterdam, the momentum of the 4-1 win against Russia. Just one of them things, plenty of good teams will go out in the last 16, no shame in that.

As has been said, the tournament format has completely done us over imo. Look how average Italy looked yesterday when suddenly not playing in front of their own fans. It has a massive impact and all the countries who have 2 or 3 home games that are virtually home qualifiers have benefited massively, and England will continue to do so until the final. That’s before you factor in the travelling/lack of travelling.

It must be one of the most weighted tournaments in history.

[Trigger]

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Yesterday I just felt disappointed that we almost seemed resigned to losing before kick off and that everything was against us.

I'm disappointed in how we played as I know we can do so much better. You can accept losing to the likes of Denmark as they are a good team but it was the manner of the defeat that irked me.

On reflection I can appreciate that I've seen us at another major tournament, something that prior to 2016 I wondered if would ever happen.

The tour to the extreme edges of Europe wouldn't have helped but we knew that when qualifying. I'm not a fan of the set up, massively favours some but then the likes of Scotland hardly made much use of such advantage and we would have liked our games in Cardiff I'm sure. Just as well fans en masse couldn't travel as I'm sure it wouldn't have been a patch on the 2016 experience.

Hopefully we only see one host or two neighbouring ones from now on.

For us, hopefully we can shake this off, continue to do all we can to bring through the next crop and keep doing as well as we can.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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The morning after , loads to be optimistic about

Some great young players coming through

And Bale still has 4 years in him

[A Quiet Monkfish]

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The morning after , loads to be optimistic about

Some great young players coming through

And Bale still has 4 years in him

Not sure. We were fortunate against Switzerland, and have only really played well at times against a really poor Turkey. Yesterday things didn't quite go our way, but we were lucky with a 4-0 scoreline.