Masks Yes or No After Restrictions Lifted

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SAGE first recommends circuit breaker in meeting on 21st of September 2020 with patients admitted to hospital on that day at 369*.

Boris announces on 5th of July 2021 that restrictions are to be lifted later in the month with patients admitted to hospital on that date unknown, too early for data to be shown, but latest figure is for 4th of July 2021 shows 456.

That's most similar to 30th of September 2020.

Said earlier in the thread how complicated a decision it is and that we probably can't judge until 2022. I hope the "immunity wall" stops anything bad happening (and there are obviously big differences in treatment compared to September 2020) but still think we need to be mindful about protecting each other.

*obviously they were speaking about things other than the data for hospitalisations on that specific day, not just because that days data probably wasn't available to them.

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The vaccine has weakened link between cases and hospitalization and between hospitalization and deaths but if cases do surge to 100,000 per day that would still likely be an awful lot of hospitalizations, perhaps as many as mid-to-late October 2020.

Chris Whitty expects a covid surge followed by a more normal respiratory surge (Hugo Gye, Deputy Political Editor at The I) which highlights how difficult each option is. I'd suggest it also means we should be looking to ease pressure on NHS as much as we can via voluntary mask wearing and reducing contact number/duration when feeling ill - government can also take action to improve SSP and give grants to improve ventilation standards in buildings.

Scotland's actions up to this point seem to have worked the best in the UK.

Think this policy decision by UK government (speaking for England) will need to be judged circa April/May of 2022.

Really? I mean really??

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Really? I mean really??

Two people have commented on this now. There are many different measures to look at, some financial measures won't be known yet, but if we're talking about protecting health only then Scotland has obviously done best job out of four home nations up to this point - just look at the stats over the whole year and a bit.

Their biggest mistake was moving potentially ill people back into care homes right at the start but that's something, shamefully, each government did when working closely together.

We're now at a point where case numbers are greater in Scotland than anywhere else but this is the first time that's happened. They've managed to delay that until England feel so confident about managing the virus they're saying case numbers no longer matter.