FT: ENGLAND 2 - 1 DENMARK. aet

[Gofer Blue]

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Re: the "penalty". Ian Wright's comment summed it up for me when he said "you heard Raheem say that he thought he felt a touch on his leg"! Thought he felt......come on, pull the other one.

[Forest Green Bluebird]

Re: FT: ENGLAND 2 - 1 DENMARK. aet

Cardiff, Swansea, Newport and Wrexham fans may need to think of an alternative to "Oh Engerland is full of Shit ..." if they win on Sunday.

[Baloo]

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And to add, as a fan i welcome play like that, don't mind it one bit.

That’s fine. I understand players may have a different perspective. But it really adds no weight to the argument either way imo.

[Tuerto]

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That’s fine. I understand players may have a different perspective. But it really adds no weight to the argument either way imo.

I think it does. We think like fans, they think as Professionals. The Danish defenders won't be calling sterling a cheat like some on here are, they'll be more disappointed in themselves and the fact that they put themselves in that position to start with. Just part of the game for me, whether it goes my way or not.

[Baloo]

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I think it does. We think like fans, they think as Professionals. The Danish defenders won't be calling sterling a cheat like some on here are, they'll be more disappointed in themselves and the fact that they put themselves in that position to start with. Just part of the game for me, whether it goes my way or not.

Yes, I understand. But why do fans necessarily have to show deference to what players think? It’s quite possible to have valid different perspectives on something like this.

[City123]

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Mark Clattenburg, who I'm no a fan of, just made an excellent point. As a referee, with the game on the line, unless you're 100% sure (which he said he wasn't) you DON'T give the penalty, you leave it up to VAR. Interesting.

You're not supposed to make a decision unless your 100% certain at any point

I think England would have won anyway, but what a joke of a decision

[City123]

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I think it does. We think like fans, they think as Professionals. The Danish defenders won't be calling sterling a cheat like some on here are, they'll be more disappointed in themselves and the fact that they put themselves in that position to start with. Just part of the game for me, whether it goes my way or not.

I dunno about that, you quite often see professionals absolutely livid when a player dives for a penalty

[Tuerto]

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Yes, I understand. But why do fans necessarily have to show deference to what players think? It’s quite possible to have valid different perspectives on something like this.

They don't. But in my opinion it shows a lack of understanding of what is actually happening in front of their eyes. People don't have to like it, and they can think it is wrong, but to dismiss it as simple cheating is naive and simplistic in my opinion.

[Tuerto]

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I dunno about that, you quite often see professionals absolutely livid when a player dives for a penalty

Yeah, but i'd bet that they're pissed off if one of their defenders has got the wrong side or caught flat footed etc. I think that sterling was well within his rights to go down for that shambolic defending. If a defender wants to bowl him a free one..

[City123]

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Yeah, but i'd bet that they're pissed off if one of their defenders has got the wrong side or caught flat footed etc. I think that sterling was well within his rights to go down for that shambolic defending. If a defender wants to bowl him a free one..

If we're giving penalties for shambolic defending Cardiff would concede 2 a week!

I think "within his rights" is a little far. Is it "clever"? Sure, but at the end of the day it is cheating. How on earth it was given and then not overturned is beyond me

[blue matt]

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What is the point of VAR when they can't even see that?

VAR has failed

When the football world heralded the VAR system, we were told " no more mistakes " when it was just the ref and the lino we knew they made mistakes, they are human, yes we moaned like fook about it, yes we said the bigger teams got the calls, but VAR was s.posed to stop all of that, tonight VAR looked at the Pen, they saw it from various angles and still made the wrong call imho, whatever touch the defender got on Sterling wasnt what brought him down, when the player says in the after match interview " i thought i felt a touch " you know something is wrong

[City123]

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2 balls on the pitch aswell. Like come on guys, its not that hard to referee

[Tuerto]

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If we're giving penalties for shambolic defending Cardiff would concede 2 a week!

I think "within his rights" is a little far. Is it "clever"? Sure, but at the end of the day it is cheating. How on earth it was given and then not overturned is beyond me

I'm really easy going over this kind of thing, it doesn't bother me. I thought that it was a penalty, maybe it wasn't. He got lucky, although he earned it in my opinion by being positive, making the danish defenders make poor decisions which gave the referee something to think about. And i'd say the same thing if it was against us. You try not to get into a 1on 1 with raheem sterling in the box. That's step 1 of defending, it's not likely to end well.

[Moodybluebird]

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Highlight of the game ?

Easy, Keiffer got a mention by the commentator after Harry Maguire was booked for leading with his arm when jumping for the ball.

[Optimistic Nick]

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Because you can be the better team and not do enough to win. It happens all the time. I give England credit for the own goal, it was all of their making. But for me, the gift of the penalty was very fortunate. They say you make your own luck, but Harry Kane took a shit penalty which on another day, Schmeichel would smother. The better team on paper by far, better team on the pitch for the last 15 minutes or normal time and all of extra time. But not deserving winners in my opinion.

I agree in league football l. But this is knockout football. Someone has to win. Denmark have been great, but they were second best tonight and didn’t deserve to go through. England were the better team overall by far tonight. As soon as Denmark took off their two best players they were hanging on and I think even to that point England were probably the better side anyway. Penalty was soft yes but still a pen, and even so overall it was the right result.

Kane’s penalty was so shit that it worked in his favour. Had he hit it harder or wider, Schmeichel may have looked to knock it away. It was basically a back pass that he failed to gather safely. Tho thought Kane was excellent tonight, bought countless free kicks to relieve pressure.