Racists

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Letting people say what they want doesn’t mean that you then have to agree with or condone what they choose to say.
Can you see how that works? It’s called liberal democracy.

In a Liberal democracy you can say you think immigration is a problem and you will find whilst people may or may not disagree with you , a sensible chat can occur

Thats freedom of speech

However letting people say what they want can mean that a bloke can walk up to a black bloke with his kids in Cardiff and say go back to your own country you nggr

So , sure , we should let people say what they want but saying certain stuff could lead you to getting a good beating or see you getting arrested for racially motivated public order offences

So with this Liberal freedom of speech thing there are consequences which is why people sending racist messages to black players need to be careful

[RonnieBird]

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Quite right. With every legitimate right comes a responsibility and consequences.
No one suggested that because you can do something that you should necessarily do it.

[BlueArmy 86]

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Same guy talking about the English players kneeling:



I think he's outing himself here.

"People can say what they want, as long as I agree with it!"

On a side note, Tyrone Mings response to Priti was fantastic.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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On a side note, Tyrone Mings response to Priti was fantastic.

What a complete and utter twat that woman is

[PhyllisStant]

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Genuine question - do people perceive a difference between discrimination of any type. For example, gender, race, sexual orientation, disability?

Surely they are all equally prevalent and equally damaging but I'm not convinced, as a society, we treat them the same way.

[the other bob wilson]

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On a side note, Tyrone Mings response to Priti was fantastic.

Wasn’t it just. I wonder if it’s the first time ever that the England football team have been more eloquent than the UK Government?

[Rjk]

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Wasn’t it just. I wonder if it’s the first time ever that the England football team have been more eloquent than the UK Government?

there's a really interesting dynamic going on at the moment. I think that if these senior Tories were having this public discourse with any other group of people they would be digging their heels in and doubling down. but they've come up against a group in the England players that are more popular, well spoken and better informed on this topic so theres some rapid back pedalling going on.

[Hilts]

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Wasn’t it just. I wonder if it’s the first time ever that the England football team have been more eloquent than the UK Government?

A team of gazzas would be more eloquent than the buffoon and co.

This lot are not only incompetent bufoons but they are playing to a certain audience to attract votes.

Mings , Neville have said it how it is.

[Rjk]

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A team of gazzas would be more eloquent than the buffoon and co.

This lot are not only incompetent bufoons but they are playing to a certain audience to attract votes.

Mings , Neville have said it how it is.

usually the Tories are having these arguments with people they can accuse of playing to the crowd, or being part of a woke lefty agenda. or are from organisations that are beholden to the government for funding like the BBC. these guys are speaking plainly from their own experience and it is so powerful

[az city]

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No, again, certainly not.
I’ve been there but not for a long time and I thought it was an awful place.
The little “racist “ thing wasn’t missed by the way but as I’ve said before I really don’t go in for proving at length that I’m not a racist in the absence of the tiniest indication that I might be.

Ronnie, it was meant as a joke, and, not at your expense.

[RonnieBird]

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My apologies. I’m the first to complain when people are humourless and self righteous yet my response was just that !

My only excuse ( and it’s not really) is that despite never saying or doing anything “racist” as far as I know you eventually feel under the cosh whenever you take an unpopular view of any subject and most people end up feeling they have to disprove that they’re racist before saying anything.

Anyway that doesn’t excuse my irritable and perhaps even impolite outburst.
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[RonnieBird]

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Emoji came out wrong - no idea what that one is!

[jimmyscoular]

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I am simply explaining that people have the right to say what they want but if they do this it could be what they say means they will be arrested

You can call someone a nggr if you want to but you might get arrested for it

No more complicated than that

With free speech comes responsibility

Ah, I think you mean people have the ABILITY to do whatever they want, not the right. We all have the ability to shoot someone but there is hardly a right to do so. Bit obvious, I suppose, but OK.

[az city]

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My apologies. I’m the first to complain when people are humourless and self righteous yet my response was just that !

My only excuse ( and it’s not really) is that despite never saying or doing anything “racist” as far as I know you eventually feel under the cosh whenever you take an unpopular view of any subject and most people end up feeling they have to disprove that they’re racist before saying anything.

Anyway that doesn’t excuse my irritable and perhaps even impolite outburst.
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I think you're "talking" to me? Absolutely no apology needed. It reflects well that on you that you feel (unnecessarily) the need to apologize.

Here's a virtual pint.

[Dorcus]

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What a complete and utter twat that woman is

This bitch of a woman is the lowest of the low. Because she's been spawned by a wealthy family she's sold her soul to Mammon and the altar of elite supremacy.

Her attitude is..."nothing to see here, no racism, I'm with the white elite now and thank the Lord we've shut the door to the rest of you coloured proles"