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  • Re: Racists

    Originally posted by Hilts View Post
    Its like trying to reason with Trump fanatics. Complete waste of time.

    To be fair some Tory MPs have backed the players and distanced themselves from Patel.
    It’s not what it seems in this case. Lisvane blue is a fair minded and generous friend of mine. Because of this, I was a bit surprised that he said what he did for what seemed to be no other reason than Priti Patel belonged to a particular party. I’m fairly sure I wouldn’t defend a Labour politician in the same way if they had a history like she has.

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      Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
      It’s not what it seems in this case. Lisvane blue is a fair minded and generous friend of mine. Because of this, I was a bit surprised that he said what he did for what seemed to be no other reason than Priti Patel belonged to a particular party. I’m fairly sure I wouldn’t defend a Labour politician in the same way if they had a history like she has.
      I didn't defend her. As I said Im not that fond of her. I just pointed to Dorcus that she had a very normal upbringing and is not one of the privileged few. So his conclusion on what a horrible racist women he thinks she us is probably tainted because she also happens to be a Tory.

      Stones and glass houses come to mind.

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      • Re: Racists



        This idiot is our home secretary 🙄

        As far as I am concerned she's a complete idiot , a career politician and a very dangerous woman

        Keep voting tory and these little snakes will find their nest with the other vipers

        She used the term gesture politics not to debate a very important topic but to appeal to the idiots who voted her in

        Its more than possible for people from ethnic minorities to be racist towards others and it wouldn't surprise me if she was

        Dreadful devious back stabbing woman

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        • Re: Racists

          Originally posted by lisvaneblue View Post
          I didn't defend her. As I said Im not that fond of her. I just pointed to Dorcus that she had a very normal upbringing and is not one of the privileged few. So his conclusion on what a horrible racist women he thinks she us is probably tainted because she also happens to be a Tory.

          Stones and glass houses come to mind.
          I think she's a horrible little racist

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          • Re: Racists

            Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
            I think she's a horrible little racist
            As bad as Jeremy Corbyn??

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            • Re: Racists

              Originally posted by lisvaneblue View Post
              Seems she was from an ordinary family who ran a newsagent business. She went to a standard secondary modern school in Watford, then Keele University. Not from a privilaged public school background or Oxbridge.

              I think your judgement of her is coloured by the fact that she is a Tory.
              Or perhaps your judgement is clouded as shes a Tory?

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              • Re: Racists

                Originally posted by lisvaneblue View Post
                As bad as Jeremy Corbyn??
                do you actually believe Corbyn is racist?

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                • Re: Racists

                  Originally posted by Rjk View Post
                  do you actually believe Corbyn is racist?
                  Many Jews seem to think so, and his reluctance to condemn anti-semitism would indicate that he is.

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                  • Re: Racists

                    Originally posted by Rjk View Post
                    do you actually believe Corbyn is racist?
                    Standard defence but but but Jeremy Corbyn.

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                      Originally posted by lisvaneblue View Post
                      I didn't defend her. As I said Im not that fond of her. I just pointed to Dorcus that she had a very normal upbringing and is not one of the privileged few. So his conclusion on what a horrible racist women he thinks she us is probably tainted because she also happens to be a Tory.

                      Stones and glass houses come to mind.
                      what do you think about her turning up to a raid on illegal immigrants home with police wearing a "home secretary" jacket, using people's misfortune as a photo opportunity? beaming with delight as someone is dragged away. is that behaviour becoming of one of the great offices of state? I can't imagine any of the previous incumbents doing that sort of thing.

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                        Originally posted by Hilts View Post
                        Or perhaps your judgement is clouded as shes a Tory?
                        I was just stating facts...an ordinary upbringing in an ordinary family.

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                        • Re: Racists

                          Originally posted by lisvaneblue View Post
                          Many Jews seem to think so, and his reluctance to condemn anti-semitism would indicate that he is.
                          many other Jews don't think so too. and he's said "antisemitism is vile and wrong" that seems fairly straightforward to me.

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                          • Re: Racists

                            Originally posted by lisvaneblue View Post
                            As bad as Jeremy Corbyn??
                            Jeremy is the salt of the Earth: there's not an ounce of racism in his body.

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                              Originally posted by Elwood Blues View Post
                              Was her family wealthy before they came to this country?
                              I don't know: is it relevant? They certainly were afterwards.

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                                Originally posted by Rjk View Post
                                many other Jews don't think so too. and he's said "antisemitism is vile and wrong" that seems fairly straightforward to me.

                                with about as much conviction as me saying that I love Swansea FC.

                                It left a big stain on the Labour Party's credibility

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