Despondency

[Llandaff Blue]

Re: Despondency

The most ludicrous thing of all is that anyone who has seen the current crop of youngsters coming up through the age groups, will now that the methods they were taught during that time were completely contradictory to what awaits in the first team. It's easy just to look at the careers of the many talented footballers who have come through the ranks at Cardiff in the last decade and more and say they weren't good enough because they didn't break into the first team, but all that proves is that they weren't suited to the "Cardiff way".

Keenan Patten's older brother Robbie was released by the club after injury disrupted his progress and I know he had teams interested in him at National League level, at least, who didn't offer him a contract because his footballing education at Cardiff had taught him to play the game the "right way". He was too much a footballer for the way these clubs were going to play!

It's been a joke at Cardiff in recent years - you get players coming through who are unsuited to the way the first team has played in the last ten years or so. Therefore, you have to ask why are we spending so much on the Academy?

We may, finally, be about to see a return on all of that investment, but my impression is that nearly all of the promising crop of players coming through will fail to fulfil their potential if the first team continues to play like it does.

Wonder what he's up to now, oh look he's playing for Barry! He was capped 3 times for the Welsh u19s! Come off it, the players we produce are crap. Like Patten, they barely get capped at international level. I remember people raving about Ratfcliffe cause he looked good at youth level despite being on loan at fecking Barry and being kept out of the Wales side by Przybek. Although he's still young, he would be on loan at national league sides like Pryzbek has but he's obviously not good enough.

I don't want to shit on these kids cause they are being poorly coached regardless of what level they're at, but let's not pretend the stuff they play at youth level is worlds away from the first team, that's nonsense. If we had capable coaches or players, either the players would make it elsewhere (despite your LAUGHABLE comment about Patten) or the coaches would be snapped up by other clubs that are invested in youth development. We have a category 2 academy remember, there's little in the way of us stopping players being snatched

The academy is a joke and a waste of money. I am honestly surprised Tan hasn't scrapped it already

[surge]

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I still think this year will be judged as being an interesting one in hindsight.

Smithies
Sang NG Morrison Nelson Bagan
Wintle Ralls
Giles
Moore Collins/Harris

Not a bad starting XI and if the new kids can get 12+ games from the season it sets us up nicely going forward. We finished 8th last year, three teams ahead of us should be worse this year and only five teams behind us will be significantly better. 10th place seems a fair prediction with outside shot at play-offs again.

[NYCBlue]

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I must admit, I'm getting pretty bored now. Our level of success is what I dreamed of. We got back to where we were when I started. But the football is dreadful. The owner and the management are uninspiring. We can be so much more. But we're not. Football has moved on and we haven't.

[splott parker]

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I feel much the same but was also surprisingly unexcited about the return of football during lockdown as well. Then we spanked Leeds 3-0 and I was all over it again

You were there, the only time we’ve beaten Leeds 3-0??? ...........in 1924 f*ck me Del, you’re a dark horse, I had you down as late 30s

[The Hooded Claw]

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I must admit, I'm getting pretty bored now. Our level of success is what I dreamed of. We got back to where we were when I started. But the football is dreadful. The owner and the management are uninspiring. We can be so much more. But we're not. Football has moved on and we haven't.

The club seems to be drifting a bit.
Granted, there is the effect of the pandemic, but that’s effected everyone.
Vincent Tan has supported the club financially and shown commitment, but I can’t help feeling that the management of the club needs a shake up.

[insider]

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I didn't go last night and I won't be there Saturday for family reasons.
But I went on the train to Bath and thoroughly enjoyed it.
If you went back in the really shite years it was never really about quality of performance.
I'm looking forward to the season being with my son brother and mates and following the City home and away hopefully

[blue matt]

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we are a mid table championship team, we could push for the Prem, in the late 80's who would have thought we would be saying that

Of course we have been stuck at this point for a while, is it boring now ? ? ??

I feel when we were in the 4th, we had dreams, we knew we could be better, we dreamt to competing with the big boys, we have now had that taste and it didnt wok out ( Twice ) where do we go now ? ?

[delmbox]

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You were there, the only time we’ve beaten Leeds 3-0??? ...........in 1924 f*ck me Del, you’re a dark horse, I had you down as late 30s

I could have sworn it was 3-0

Next you'll be telling me we lost the FA Cup final against Portsmouth

[BLUETIT]

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Is Despondency anywhere near Rotherham ?

[dml1954]

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They’ve got to sort the ticketing fiasco out otherwise the less determined just won’t bother.

Remember when you could just turn up and hand a tenner over at the turnstiles

We are living in the 21st century now with a modern automated stadium with bar code access for tickets/cards. However the ticket office is always open on the day of the game and they have cash ticket booths open outside the ground before every game. There is absolutely no reason why people cant just turn up and pay on the day. Nothing is ever quite as bad as some people make out. Also, at the moment the club have absolutely no idea how many people they can let in on August 7th, so can not possibly advertise whether general sale tickets will be available.

[dml1954]

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I didn't go last night and I won't be there Saturday for family reasons.
But I went on the train to Bath and thoroughly enjoyed it.
If you went back in the really shite years it was never really about quality of performance.
I'm looking forward to the season being with my son brother and mates and following the City home and away hopefully

[dml1954]

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Not despondent at all - absolutely delighted to be back in the stadium last night - no problem getting tickets no problem getting in and the stewards were all good.

Plus points for me were McGuiness and Bowen, the clapping off of the team at the end and the applause for the taking the knee.

Are we going to get promoted - no
Are we going to see a change of plan from the club - no
Are we going to see a change in playing style - no
Are we going to see improved comms from the club - no

And as I can't massively influence the above I will continue doing what I am doing and go through the turnstiles and support those on the pitch.

As for being despondent - that maybe created by spending too much time on this board as there is a minority of regular posters who do nothing but moan about everything to do with the club and derail other posts with so called funny quips about things they are unhappy with

Just my mostly irrelevant opinion but if I was that unhappy I wouldn't go anywhere near what was making me unhappy in the first place

Excellent post. There are people on this board who have been moaning about City for so long, they are unable to shake themselves out of it, see anything that the club/team does as good, think it is the normal thing to do and that every else agrees with them. Whereas they are really only an insignificant minority of the overall fanbase, comprising about 25-30 people at most.

[BLUETIT]

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We are living in the 21st century now with a modern automated stadium with bar code access for tickets/cards. However the ticket office is always open on the day of the game and they have cash ticket booths open outside the ground before every game. There is absolutely no reason why people cant just turn up and pay on the day. Nothing is ever quite as bad as some people make out. Also, at the moment the club have absolutely no idea how many people they can let in on August 7th, so can not possibly advertise whether general sale tickets will be available.

So you’re saying it’s DUCKFORD’S and his cronies fault ?

Because every other club is selling tickets, even our six fingered friends down west

[delmbox]

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So you’re saying it’s DUCKFORD’S and his cronies fault ?

Because every other club is selling tickets, even our six fingered friends down west

God it must be absolutely exhausting being you