Mark Harris rumour

[dembethewarrior]

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So they can watch the long ball whistle over their heads ...:-)

Or get passed out wide, every single play.

[Hilts]

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We've got Wintle in, and they've got Bacuna, Pack, Vaulks and Ralls. We've got to be able to move them on, and I imagine they're all on good money. I agree we need more but with a limited budget we probably can't carry 6 centre mids!

I think they're going to play Pack and Ralls/Vaulks to start, with Giles and Bacuna in front, and the third striker would be a potential different option. I guess!

I think Vaulks is suspended for the 1st 3.

[Dave Blue]

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Harris certainly knows where the goal is. I’d be pretty miffed if he went out on loan.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

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I think Vaulks is suspended for the 1st 3.

Just Barnsley. Sent off against Wycombe, so missed Birmingham and Rotherham.

Also, I mean in general! One of Vaulks and Ralls will play.

[J R Hartley]

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Just Barnsley. Sent off against Wycombe, so missed Birmingham and Rotherham.

Also, I mean in general! One of Vaulks and Ralls will play.

When Mick was talking about centre midfield the other day he said he was well covered in there and will be adding Sam Bowen to the group too. Bowen has been heavily involved pre-season and didnt feature for the Under 23s yesterday so I assume hes now been elevated to the first team squad.

Wintle, Ralls and Vaulks are all very similar. Bowen is more similar to Pack. His passing range is better than any of the senior players. Obviously a big jump up to championship level, maybe a year on loan at league 1 level would be better for his development.

[dembethewarrior]

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When Mick was talking about centre midfield the other day he said he was well covered in there and will be adding Sam Bowen to the group too. Bowen has been heavily involved pre-season and didnt feature for the Under 23s yesterday so I assume hes now been elevated to the first team squad.

Wintle, Ralls and Vaulks are all very similar. Bowen is more similar to Pack. His passing range is better than any of the senior players.

Let's hope so.

[J R Hartley]

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We've got Wintle in, and they've got Bacuna, Pack, Vaulks and Ralls. We've got to be able to move them on, and I imagine they're all on good money. I agree we need more but with a limited budget we probably can't carry 6 centre mids!

I think they're going to play Pack and Ralls/Vaulks to start, with Giles and Bacuna in front, and the third striker would be a potential different option. I guess!

Ive had this argument countless times with others on other boards too. We cant just carry a shitload of wages in centre midfield. With 4 senior central midfielders, plus the addition of Wintle, albeit a free transfer, we need to move some out before we can bring anyone in.

[dembethewarrior]

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Ive had this argument countless times with others on other boards too. We cant just carry a shitload of wages in centre midfield. With 4 senior central midfielders, plus the addition of Wintle, albeit a free transfer, we need to move some out before we can bring anyone in.

In the system mick uses we use 2 CM, if we had 2 seniors covering we could carry a few kids for experience/extra cover as well.

We can definitely let a couple go.

[J R Hartley]

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In the system mick uses we use 2 CM, if we had 2 seniors covering we could carry a few kids for experience/extra cover as well.

We can definitely let a couple go.

Agreed. We could let at least 1 go without replacing. The problem is the senior midfielders are paid more here than they will get anywhere else as all are Warnock contracts. Impossible to shift unless we pay them off, which is false economy.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

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In the system mick uses we use 2 CM, if we had 2 seniors covering we could carry a few kids for experience/extra cover as well.

We can definitely let a couple go.

Yes but as JR and I have said, people have got to want to take them off our hands. Pack, Vaulks, Ralls, Flint, Morrison, Smithies, Brown, Tomlin, Vassell and Murphy will all be on big money and are all out of contract in the summer. There are going to be big, big changes in the summer. If those 9 (plus Brown who won't be on much) are on an average of 15k a week, that's nearly 7m in wages.

[LeningradCowboy]

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Yes but as JR and I have said, people have got to want to take them off our hands. Pack, Vaulks, Ralls, Flint, Morrison, Smithies, Brown, Tomlin, Vassell and Murphy will all be on big money and are all out of contract in the summer. There are going to be big, big changes in the summer. If those 9 (plus Brown who won't be on much) are on an average of 15k a week, that's nearly 7m in wages.

Bacuna will still be here though!

[surge]

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Bacuna will still be here though!

“We were fortunate we managed to get Bacuna over the line. He’s a player I like and I’ve watched over the last three years,” Warnock added.

“He can play wherever the need is. I’ve seen him at right back, left back playing in central midfield and also on the right wing. He’s versatile.”

https://www.iol.co.za/sport/soccer/n...ident-19085106

Bacuna's best time here was in a central midfield three with Ralls and one other but has now played for a series of managers who want a midfield two and don't see Bacuna as one of the two. I'm sure he's happy on the contract signed but there's surely a club out there who would make more of his talents - I don't see him as an AM if you hadn't guessed although he's better there than as a RB.

Largely separate to the player themselves is the contract and transfer fee and I think Bacuna's numbers are a sign of what a desperate position we were in during that winter window.

[RonnieBird]

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Bacuna is undoubtably the most under rated player at the club.
That aside, I take it that this Harris to Rotherham thing is forgotten?

[life on mars]

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Bacuna is undoubtably the most under rated player at the club.
That aside, I take it that this Harris to Rotherham thing is forgotten?

Bale seems a forgotten thing as well .

I think Bacuna is a decent versatile squad man , prefer him as a forward midfielder.

[RonnieBird]

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Yeah he’s technically very good and importantly he’s a reliable professional who won’t let you down.
NH ruined his fan reputation by forcing him to play full back for so long and he’s not good at that.