Did everyone's eticket work?

[dml1954]

Re: Did everyone's eticket work?

BlueTit said there would be chaos. Was he right?

No.

[logic]

Re: Did everyone's eticket work?

This is often said by those who want to denegrate City's home support but how do you know it is true. Every person who enters the ground is counted by the automatic turnstile system, so it is easy for the club to know exactly how many people go in. Why would they therefore publicise a fictitious figure ? There is nothing to be gained by doing this. In fact it might cost them more in vat and tax if they deliberately inflate it. The ground holds over 33000 don't forget, so 17500 is only just over half full which, from what I saw, was about correct - the ninian and canton stands were pretty full and Barnsley must have brought 600-700 at least.

Logic dictates this post requires attention.

The assertion is that the announced attendance must be the number claimed as otherwise the club may have to pay more VAT and tax.

The immediate logical flaw is the assumption that somehow HMRC work from attendance - this is not only unworkable but implausible as it intimates HMRC must be aware of a breakdown of ticket sales and ticket prices rather than working off income.

As for the assertion the announced crowd must be correct, this ignores the fact that the only people who need to know the actual attendance for regulatory concerns are the authorities concerned.

Verdict; poster logic flawed, post incorrect

[IanD]

Re: Did everyone's eticket work?

Regulars, if that term can be used after such a long break, by me....one couldn't access Internet on his phone outside the stadium so went to the ticket office and got a proper ticket. Another used last season's ST to gain access after showing it to a steward.
After all the hassle, has anyone actually worked out why we are getting brand new STs? Like passports, do they have a limited lifespan chip inside?

To answer my own question....we are getting dual purpose STs that will also act as a Barclaycard Visa card. Seems tha concourse facilities will be going contactless (including those not open on Saturday?) and we will be encouraged to use our Barclycard/ST to pay for refreshments/food/club shop purposes. That way we can have exciting rewards as loyal fans.

[JamesWales]

Re: Did everyone's eticket work?

Nope!

Absolute shambles. The queue outside Gate 4 was down to Mcdonalds at 2.50. Had two tickets and the club texted the same ticket to me and my mate, so once i got in, he couldnt. The email on my yahoo didnt include a QR code.

All a joke - huge queues to get in, huge queues for booze and food, no cash (even to buy a programme)..really a pretty shit experience to be honest, and yet they it to us as progress.

[BLUETIT]

Re: Did everyone's eticket work?

Nope!

Absolute shambles. The queue outside Gate 4 was down to Mcdonalds at 2.50. Had two tickets and the club texted the same ticket to me and my mate, so once i got in, he couldnt. The email on my yahoo didnt include a QR code.

All a joke - huge queues to get in, huge queues for booze and food, no cash (even to buy a programme)..really a pretty shit experience to be honest, and yet they it to us as progress.

No, you must be mistaken, all went fine according to the one eyed people on here :hehe:

[delmbox]

Re: Did everyone's eticket work?

No, you must be mistaken, all went fine according to the one eyed people on here :hehe:

I'd say from my personal experience and from being there and seeing it in action that overall it went pretty smoothly, with some hiccups. Kickoff certainly wasn't delayed like one drama queen said (hoped?) it would be :hehe:

That's not to say that I don't think there should be a non-technology option for those who'll struggle with this system though, there definitely needs to be more consideration for the older generation of fans.

[JamesWales]

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I think the thing is that this is about getting 'customers' inside a building. People have been visiting stadiums, theatres and the like for many hundreds of years, and these changes are sold as progress and yet the situation gets worst. Success is viewed as someone managing to enter the ground - well that has always happened. The point is there shouldnt even be a discussion on it. It all just strikes me as bad customer service really - there are negatives that come with making everything electronic and it feels like the club dont take account of that

[The Bloop]

Re: Did everyone's eticket work?

This is often said by those who want to denegrate City's home support but how do you know it is true. Every person who enters the ground is counted by the automatic turnstile system, so it is easy for the club to know exactly how many people go in. Why would they therefore publicise a fictitious figure ? There is nothing to be gained by doing this. In fact it might cost them more in vat and tax if they deliberately inflate it. The ground holds over 33000 don't forget, so 17500 is only just over half full which, from what I saw, was about correct - the ninian and canton stands were pretty full and Barnsley must have brought 600-700 at least.

No one is publicising an incorrect figure
Attendance can mean either the number of tickets sold or the number of people through the turnstiles. For safety reasons, on the day authorities need to know the latter figure, but what benefit is there to the club in publicising a lower figure?

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/45158878

[dembethewarrior]

Re: Did everyone's eticket work?

Everyone has tales of how successful it was, or how poor it was.

Personally, if that was how it worked with a 13,000 crowd (no way was there 17000 in attendance), I dread to think what it would have been like in a 30,000 crowd

Remember, anything over about 18,000, are not regular fans, so the system would be new to them, causing even more confusion !

Give me season ticket cards, much simpler

The system is basically what paying with a chip and pin card has been for years.

You'd have to have lived under a stone or be about 80 not to get it.

I don't know why you keep on like it's some kind of feat of human intelligence to tap a card or phone to gain entry.

[splott parker]

Re: Did everyone's eticket work?

The system is basically what paying with a chip and pin card has been for years.

You'd have to have lived under a stone or be about 80 not to get it.

I don't know why you keep on like it's some kind of feat of human intelligence to tap a card or phone to gain entry.

Tap a card (or insert it, actually) was the tried and tested way, no need to have things sent to a ‘phone, we actually, well I do anyway, have an existing season ticket card that I assume could have been reactivated, no need to do anything, just take it out of your wallet. We’re getting new cards now though I see, with what seems to be a pre payment option for goods at the stadium outlet. Why? We have notes in our wallets that do the job without anything prior needing to be done.

[The Bloop]

Re: Did everyone's eticket work?

Tap a card (or insert it, actually) was the tried and tested way, no need to have things sent to a ‘phone, we actually, well I do anyway, have an existing season ticket card that I assume could have been reactivated, no need to do anything, just take it out of your wallet. We’re getting new cards now though I see, with what seems to be a pre payment option for goods at the stadium outlet. Why? We have notes in our wallets that do the job without anything prior needing to be done.

I guess you wont receive your loyalty points if you use any payment method other than your season ticket card.

[splott parker]

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I guess you wont receive your loyalty points if you use any payment method other than your season ticket card.

Loyalty points!!!! Loyalty points you say, I deserves a medal as big as a dustbin lid for my dedication to the cause:hehe:

[dembethewarrior]

Re: Did everyone's eticket work?

Tap a card (or insert it, actually) was the tried and tested way, no need to have things sent to a ‘phone, we actually, well I do anyway, have an existing season ticket card that I assume could have been reactivated, no need to do anything, just take it out of your wallet. We’re getting new cards now though I see, with what seems to be a pre payment option for goods at the stadium outlet. Why? We have notes in our wallets that do the job without anything prior needing to be done.

Change is coming. Change is good.

Why do older people fight change so much?

[lincoln blue]

Re: Did everyone's eticket work?

Change is coming. Change is good.

Why do older people fight change so much?

We don't, I'm nearly 80 and I renewed my ST and parking permit on my Samsung Galaxy Note 10. Then I downloaded my ticket and strolled right through the turnstile process on Saturday, easy peasy!

I've been computer literate for about 41 years.
Some older people fight change but they and the ones who are tech savvy, are the ones who've paid taxes and funded schools and universities over many decades to educate and turn out the technology innovators and scientists who've invented all this technology the young ones can't get dressed without, or navigate from Sloper Rd to Leckwith Rd without an Application or 3.

They may fight change but they know how to do stuff! Nos da.

[dembethewarrior]

Re: Did everyone's eticket work?

We don't, I'm nearly 80 and I renewed my ST and parking permit on my Samsung Galaxy Note 10. Then I downloaded my ticket and strolled right through the turnstile process on Saturday, easy peasy!

I've been computer literate for about 41 years.
Some older people fight change but they and the ones who are tech savvy, are the ones who've paid taxes and funded schools and universities over many decades to educate and turn out the technology innovators and scientists who've invented all this technology the young ones can't get dressed without, or navigate from Sloper Rd to Leckwith Rd without an Application or 3.

They may fight change but they know how to do stuff! Nos da.

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