GLAMMY

[Pearcey3]

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I did say that no one comes out of this well, Donald has not made the best use of his talent in the last two seasons and his figures in all forms of the game are poor - although I would excuse him that to some degree in 20/20, and to a lesser degree, in 50 over cricket, because he goes in to bat in a way which will tend to see him dismissed early quite often. However, in a team which is giving youth a chance in the four day game,
I find it incredible that someone with, by far, the best record and reputation in junior cricket at the club cannot get a place in a side where none of the top six (nearly all youngsters) are scoring runs on anything like a consistent basis.
I was just speaking to a mate who is fairly well in with some influential people at Glamorgan and said to him that I felt there were more than cricketing reasons why Donald was not being selected, his response was "you may well be right".
I'd like to see Graham Wagg brought into the side to bat at something like number five while being told that he would be considered primarily as a batsman until the end of the season. Something needs to be done, because if we don't win a game before the end of the season we are going to finish bottom of the Championship - nobody at the club seems to be too bothered about that, but I hate the thought of it.

Yes there have been rumours all season that Donald hasn’t been happy so his departure comes as no surprise. There is talk that he is arrogant. Not sure whether true or not but he will now have a second chance with Hants. If he performs there like he has in his past two seems with us his career will come to an end in a couple of years time.

[DubaiDai]

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I did say that no one comes out of this well, Donald has not made the best use of his talent in the last two seasons and his figures in all forms of the game are poor - although I would excuse him that to some degree in 20/20, and to a lesser degree, in 50 over cricket, because he goes in to bat in a way which will tend to see him dismissed early quite often. However, in a team which is giving youth a chance in the four day game,
I find it incredible that someone with, by far, the best record and reputation in junior cricket at the club cannot get a place in a side where none of the top six (nearly all youngsters) are scoring runs on anything like a consistent basis.
I was just speaking to a mate who is fairly well in with some influential people at Glamorgan and said to him that I felt there were more than cricketing reasons why Donald was not being selected, his response was "you may well be right".
I'd like to see Graham Wagg brought into the side to bat at something like number five while being told that he would be considered primarily as a batsman until the end of the season. Something needs to be done, because if we don't win a game before the end of the season we are going to finish bottom of the Championship - nobody at the club seems to be too bothered about that, but I hate the thought of it.

I am all for relegation as well as promotion from division 2.
If the club don't give a toss - go into the minor counties league, where they belong....

[the other bob wilson]

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/45286798

[Delbert]

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So it seems we are broke. I don’t understand how that drives a strategy of recruiting young Welsh players. I would prefer to be recruiting from the best talent available within our budget rather than limiting it to the relatively small pool of players who are both young and Welsh. Where is the evidence that such a strategy will work, it looks more like a fantasy dreamed up to cover the club’s shortcomings with the Welsh flag. I’m sure there are many like me who would love to get along to Sofia Gardens and watch competitive cricket of a decent standard, regrettably there seems little prospect of that.

[Majorblue]

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So it seems we are broke. I don’t understand how that drives a strategy of recruiting young Welsh players. I would prefer to be recruiting from the best talent available within our budget rather than limiting it to the relatively small pool of players who are both young and Welsh. Where is the evidence that such a strategy will work, it looks more like a fantasy dreamed up to cover the club’s shortcomings with the Welsh flag. I’m sure there are many like me who would love to get along to Sofia Gardens and watch competitive cricket of a decent standard, regrettably there seems little prospect of that.

I am going to be controversial here and suggest that the best thing Glamorgan can do is drop out of the county championship and compete ( key word there) in the minor counties. They should also go back to the days of playing the majority of games as St Helens and use the other out grounds more often. The Sophia Gardens experiment has not worked and the club is on its arse.
Winning games, development of both young players and the game in general must be the priority. Glamorgan are not fulfilling any of those and are not showing any sign of doing so any time soon.
They simply have to re engage with the public and I see the best way of doing that is moving away from professional game, in the short term at least, and rebuilding the club as a organisation that serves its supporters and not the aims of the ECB.
Yes, I accept that most would be horrified at my suggestion and the issues surrounding the loans on the ground rebuild are complex but can anyone truly see an end to the woes under the current system?

And if anyone accuses me of being anti Glammy the above can also be directed at Durham as well.

[the other bob wilson]

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I am going to be controversial here and suggest that the best thing Glamorgan can do is drop out of the county championship and compete ( key word there) in the minor counties. They should also go back to the days of playing the majority of games as St Helens and use the other out grounds more often. The Sophia Gardens experiment has not worked and the club is on its arse.
Winning games, development of both young players and the game in general must be the priority. Glamorgan are not fulfilling any of those and are not showing any sign of doing so any time soon.
They simply have to re engage with the public and I see the best way of doing that is moving away from professional game, in the short term at least, and rebuilding the club as a organisation that serves its supporters and not the aims of the ECB.
Yes, I accept that most would be horrified at my suggestion and the issues surrounding the loans on the ground rebuild are complex but can anyone truly see an end to the woes under the current system?

And if anyone accuses me of being anti Glammy the above can also be directed at Durham as well.

I think Durham are at least producing young players who are making a significant impact in the county game Major and they also have a respected and still effective on field "old head" in Paul Collingwood who gives the impression that he is proud to represent the county.
I don't know what it is, but you're right about Cardiff - in recent years, our record there in all competitions has been dreadful and the days when we had an advantage when playing at Sophia Gardens are long gone , our team is not strong enough in batting or slow bowling to take advantage of what would be called a typical Cardiff wicket.
I don't think things are so bad that we need to go back to playing Minor Counties cricket - we are the worst example in county cricket of the decline in batsmanship which can be seen all of the way up to the test side, but Aneurin Donald is a very good example of a generation which is coming through who seem to think that "proper" batting is uncool and the only satisfaction they get is whacking the ball as hard as they can in limited overs cricket.
Donald is a talent though and there's no way he should have been as far away from the first team in the four day game as he was, the same can be said for Lukas Carey on the bowling front who was looking a real prospect this time last year - Donald in particular needs to look at himself, but there also seems to be a failure of coaching at the club - how many of our players have shown any signs of improvement/development this season?

[the other bob wilson]

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Glory be! Glamorgan get a batting bonus point by actually reaching 200 before being bowled out - wonder how many Warwickshire are going to get?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/scorecard/ECKO43218

[Pearcey3]

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I am going to be controversial here and suggest that the best thing Glamorgan can do is drop out of the county championship and compete ( key word there) in the minor counties. They should also go back to the days of playing the majority of games as St Helens and use the other out grounds more often. The Sophia Gardens experiment has not worked and the club is on its arse.
Winning games, development of both young players and the game in general must be the priority. Glamorgan are not fulfilling any of those and are not showing any sign of doing so any time soon.
They simply have to re engage with the public and I see the best way of doing that is moving away from professional game, in the short term at least, and rebuilding the club as a organisation that serves its supporters and not the aims of the ECB.
Yes, I accept that most would be horrified at my suggestion and the issues surrounding the loans on the ground rebuild are complex but can anyone truly see an end to the woes under the current system?

And if anyone accuses me of being anti Glammy the above can also be directed at Durham as well.

In fairness it’s a few years since Glammy finished rock bottom of the Championship. There have been weaker sides like Leicestershire and Derbyshire. Should they have dropped into Minor Counties cricket?

I just don’t think you can move away from the professional game in the short term. If you do it then it’s for good and I would hate to see that happen.
Glammy need to bring in more seasoned cricketers to supplement the youngsters. Wagg and Meschede are playing today along with Cooke and Hogan but in truth there need to be a couple more experienced pros in there too and someone who can spin the ball. Salter’s first class bowling average is 48. At what point do the club and the player accept that it is time to look for another career?

[Don Corleone]

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Glory be! Glamorgan get a batting bonus point by actually reaching 200 before being bowled out - wonder how many Warwickshire are going to get?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/scorecard/ECKO43218

Extras were the 2nd top scorer!

[Llanedeyrnblue]

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Innings defeat on the way

[Taffy Blue in Berkshire]

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absolutely pathetic, some of these so called professionals need to really consider a career change🙁

[fugsyphil]

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when was the last time Glammy managed to bat a full day in a championship game.

I'd even take 2 sessions grrr

[Llanedeyrnblue]

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They’re all programmed for 20 overs after that they’re knackered

[DubaiDai]

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absolutely pathetic, some of these so called professionals need to really consider a career change🙁

Should be in the minor counties league. A complete embarrassment.

Give a chance to a new county with ambition.

[the other bob wilson]

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Glamorgan have just gone from 83-2 to 121-9 against a very ordinary Derbyshire team - this has to be our worst batting side ever.