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Originally posted by the other bob wilsonView Post
With the benefit of hindsight, McAndrew’s freakish run out was the best thing to happen to Glamorgan as it seemed to fire up Cooke and brought in Van Der Gugten who faced his three balls with great calmness.
That’s four last ball finishes in six and this last one is the most amazing chase I’ve seen - how many times out of a thousand does a side needing forty one from eleven balls win? I think we might have seen the one time it does.
Cooke's body language after that run out was inspirational and said it all.
Originally posted by the other bob wilsonView Post
With the benefit of hindsight, McAndrew’s freakish run out was the best thing to happen to Glamorgan as it seemed to fire up Cooke and brought in Van Der Gugten who faced his three balls with great calmness.
That’s four last ball finishes in six and this last one is the most amazing chase I’ve seen - how many times out of a thousand does a side needing forty one from eleven balls win? I think we might have seen the one time it does.
What a brilliant inventive shot from VDG off the last ball, he knew what he wanted to do and executed it perfectly. Not bad for a bowler
Reluctantly, I say go. Ordinarily, I’m against curfews for sportsmen and women,but, over a period of time, this England team has behaved in a way which makes me think that, perhaps, this team needs to have one. I keep on hearing people say Gus Atkinson is one of the last players you would expect to get involved in an after curfew “nightclub incident”, but it seems to be generally accepted that a breach of the curfew has taken place, so some sort of punishment seems appropriate.
However, besides Atkinson, four members of the team that played New Zealand have previous when it comes to drink related incidents most of which took place in pubs or nightclubs dyuring the sort of times you might expect a curfew to apply. Stokes himself missed a tour of Australia because of an incident with a bouncer outside a nightclub, the current white ball captain was fined what we were told was the maximum amount permitted by the ECB following a nightclub incident in New Zealand just before the last Ashes tour. Ben Duckett blotted his copybook on his first England tour by pouring a pint of beer over Jimmy Anderson and was pictured looking very much the worse for wear on England’s “beach break” between test matches in the winter. Finally, although he was reported as being the innocent party, Joe Root and David Warner had a bout of fisticuffs before an Ashes series.
Originally posted by the other bob wilsonView Post
Stokes, stay or go?
Reluctantly, I say go. Ordinarily, I’m against curfews for sportsmen and women,but, over a period of time, this England team has behaved in a way which makes me think that, perhaps, this team needs to have one. I keep on hearing people say Gus Atkinson is one of the last players you would expect to get involved in an after curfew “nightclub incident”, but it seems to be generally accepted that a breach of the curfew has taken place, so some sort of punishment seems appropriate.
However, besides Atkinson, four members of the team that played New Zealand have previous when it comes to drink related incidents most of which took place in pubs or nightclubs dyuring the sort of times you might expect a curfew to apply. Stokes himself missed a tour of Australia because of an incident with a bouncer outside a nightclub, the current white ball captain was fined what we were told was the maximum amount permitted by the ECB following a nightclub incident in New Zealand just before the last Ashes tour. Ben Duckett blotted his copybook on his first England tour by pouring a pint of beer over Jimmy Anderson and was pictured looking very much the worse for wear on England’s “beach break” between test matches in the winter. Finally, although he was reported as being the innocent party, Joe Root and David Warner had a bout of fisticuffs before an Ashes series.
Originally posted by the other bob wilsonView Post
Stokes, stay or go?
Reluctantly, I say go. Ordinarily, I’m against curfews for sportsmen and women,but, over a period of time, this England team has behaved in a way which makes me think that, perhaps, this team needs to have one. I keep on hearing people say Gus Atkinson is one of the last players you would expect to get involved in an after curfew “nightclub incident”, but it seems to be generally accepted that a breach of the curfew has taken place, so some sort of punishment seems appropriate.
However, besides Atkinson, four members of the team that played New Zealand have previous when it comes to drink related incidents most of which took place in pubs or nightclubs dyuring the sort of times you might expect a curfew to apply. Stokes himself missed a tour of Australia because of an incident with a bouncer outside a nightclub, the current white ball captain was fined what we were told was the maximum amount permitted by the ECB following a nightclub incident in New Zealand just before the last Ashes tour. Ben Duckett blotted his copybook on his first England tour by pouring a pint of beer over Jimmy Anderson and was pictured looking very much the worse for wear on England’s “beach break” between test matches in the winter. Finally, although he was reported as being the innocent party, Joe Root and David Warner had a bout of fisticuffs before an Ashes series.
Go. In his interviews before and after the test I felt he was bristling. He comes across - to me anyway - astonished that media and fans can possibly question him.
Originally posted by the other bob wilsonView Post
Stokes, stay or go?
Reluctantly, I say go. Ordinarily, I’m against curfews for sportsmen and women,but, over a period of time, this England team has behaved in a way which makes me think that, perhaps, this team needs to have one. I keep on hearing people say Gus Atkinson is one of the last players you would expect to get involved in an after curfew “nightclub incident”, but it seems to be generally accepted that a breach of the curfew has taken place, so some sort of punishment seems appropriate.
However, besides Atkinson, four members of the team that played New Zealand have previous when it comes to drink related incidents most of which took place in pubs or nightclubs dyuring the sort of times you might expect a curfew to apply. Stokes himself missed a tour of Australia because of an incident with a bouncer outside a nightclub, the current white ball captain was fined what we were told was the maximum amount permitted by the ECB following a nightclub incident in New Zealand just before the last Ashes tour. Ben Duckett blotted his copybook on his first England tour by pouring a pint of beer over Jimmy Anderson and was pictured looking very much the worse for wear on England’s “beach break” between test matches in the winter. Finally, although he was reported as being the innocent party, Joe Root and David Warner had a bout of fisticuffs before an Ashes series.
He has to go surely.
It seems that he was not to blame for what happened.
But I don't think that matters. He was well aware there was a curfew and as Captain should set an example. If he and Atkinson had not been there the confrontation would not have occurred.
Think he should step aside as captain and let the selectors decide whether to pick him on merit or not.
Trouble is that means installing the vice captain, Harry Brook, as captain who himself was involved in an incident in New Zealand before the Ashes.
Ben Stokes will miss England’s second Test against New Zealand at The Oval following an incident in a London nightclub, with Joe Root stepping up as interim captain.
Four Glamorgan lads called up for the England u-19 squads. Tom Norton and Mark Wallace's son Harry into the main one, Jack Hope-Bell and Jacob Blades into the development squad.
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